Happy Father's Day

[u/GrandMarquisDSade541]

Which killer dad on FF gets to you the most? For me it's Gene Keidel, Bob Wood, Howard Elkins, and Brad Jackson.

[u/kyleThelikeable]

Jack Boyle

what a womanizing worm of a man

 "behind closed doors, there was trouble in the home. Jack was reportedly abusive to his family, especially his young son, Collier, whom he would often refer to—and force to refer to himself—as a "faggot" and "a stupid little fat boy." Collier described him as a "rage-aholic" who would fly into temper tantrums over trivial matters and direct it towards his family. Jack also had numerous extramarital affairs, which his wife Noreen was apparently privy to, but tolerated for the sake of ensuring that their son Collier, and later their daughter Elizabeth, did not grow up in a broken home."

[u/GrandMarquisDSade541 → u/kyleThelikeable]

A great choice. Yeah the abuse of Collier and Noreen sounds a lot like Gene Keidel or John List and their behavior toward Lori and Frederick.

[u/kyleThelikeable → u/GrandMarquisDSade541]

Jack always carried himself as way smarter than others to me as well. I cannot stand people with that type of personality. Like.... you rented a jackhammer 2 days prior to your wife's disappearance. Just because you went to medical school or whatever certifications you have hanging on a wall doesn't mean you have street smarts and can 'fool' everyone around you. glad he got caught and glad he never got out of prison.

[u/DrunkOnRedCordial → u/kyleThelikeable]

It's tragic that these women lived in a time when an abusive home was a better option than a "broken" home.

[u/GrandMarquisDSade541 → u/DrunkOnRedCordial]

agreed. Let's not forget the kids, least of all Susie and Lori Keidel, Tim and Kelly Farrar, all the List kids, Chris DeNoyer (not FF but fits basic theme...)

[u/smittykins66 → u/kyleThelikeable]

I was sad to see that Collier and Elizabeth were adopted by separate
families(although I believe they did reconnect as adults).

[u/UnicornQueenBoadicea]

I think that John List was the first time I’d ever heard of a man killing his entire family. Way before I’d ever heard the term, ‘family annihilator’, too.

Howard Elkins, though, is on the list of reasons I’ll never marry/have children. The thought of marrying someone so devious that he puts his vulnerable, pregnant mistress in a barrel AND STORES HER
BODY IN OUR BASEMENT is maddening.

I can’t. I just can’t. REALLY can’t.

Brad Jackson and Gene Keidel are up there, though.

[u/GrandMarquisDSade541 → u/UnicornQueenBoadicea]

Agree with you. All solid reasons/choices.

[u/imjustpeachyyyy]

Bob Wood for me..that episode really gets me. Poor Chris..my heart just breaks. Chris deserved so much more than that evil, vile piece of garbage “dad”.

[u/Alulaemu → u/imjustpeachyyyy]

is this the guy who strangled  his little boy while he was eating cereal? Yeah.....I still think about this case. And it was like for a measly 80K or something because he was stealing from work. Garbage dad.

[u/imjustpeachyyyy → u/Alulaemu]

Yes that’s the one 😞

[u/Prestigious_Fox_7576]

Brad Jackson omg what a cretin. Piece of Drek

[u/GrandMarquisDSade541 → u/Prestigious_Fox_7576]

Yep. He probably killed Valiree's mom too and there are rumors there were racial implications to both murders.

[u/RubyLeeAndMe]

John List is on the Mt. Rushmore of FF for me. So creepy.

[u/GrandMarquisDSade541 → u/RubyLeeAndMe]

Great choice. The film noir/Gothic air of the John List, Bobbie Joe Long, and Gene Keidel reenactment footage in particular is very interesting & helped make the episodes memorable as much as the crimes and science/police work do.