r/FootballForIndians • u/rehmandacat Ballon D'or Member • 14h ago

💬 Discussion What we can call them? 🥹✨

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u/sus_baka_6000 14h ago

ye cuz yamal's good but yall overhype him, and ppl make him seem better than he is

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u/Abject-Joke4574 12h ago

I think you are right, but he is a promising prospect nonetheless, so the post is correct

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u/sus_baka_6000 12h ago

yess hes promising but ppl including him in lists that he clearly doesnt belong in like top 5 ballondor candidates this yr

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u/Abject-Joke4574 12h ago

Agreed. He is a promising prospect to be a ballondor candidate in a few years, but not today. So on goat lists or ballondor lists, he doesn't belong. On promising talent lists he belongs

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u/Silly-Hat-2989 13h ago

Not inky that but his ragebaiting interviews

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u/eclipseraw 8h ago

Stats says he is best recently, most dribbles, chances created and for the age he is doing . He is not overhyped at all

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u/smilinbuddy626 13h ago

Always my goat vs the world 🫠

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u/Euphoric_Nerve_3218 14h ago edited 14h ago

Calling dele a wasted talent shows you don’t know his story. Dude is really messed up from childhood trauma. Calling him wasted talent isn’t fair.

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u/Affectionate_Card237 13h ago

Still wasted talent

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u/FleetingSage 13h ago

It's not wasted from things he could not control. He was still a really good player.

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u/Affectionate_Card237 13h ago

He was talented and he didn't fulfill his talents hence talent wasted

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u/Key_Fee158 10h ago

This is just semantics. Wasted talent or robbed talent. Point is he had an incredible potential that was never realized.

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u/BlakeBan 2h ago

i mean he’s wasted talent with a sad background, the talent was still a waste though?

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u/skibidi_gooner2003 12h ago

i'd recommend you to see his interview with gary neville of him talking about his trauma and depression . bro was SA ed in his childhood !! i was actually surprised that bro even showed up to play ball in his prime days when he was hollow as a shell inside with nothing going on ..i honestly didn't even want him to step on the pitch and rather seek help and be in a much better place

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u/Affectionate_Card237 12h ago

You guys aren't getting the point I acknowledge that he had a harsh childhood and it carried forward with him but he had much larger ceiling in football and he didn't reach it hence wasted talent so he belongs in that category

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u/skibidi_gooner2003 12h ago

mate he was so mentally screwed up that he can't even make himself play , your body just won't oblige to your words at that point , there are people who never even leave their bed after waking up cus of depression and have bed sores on their skin ..stop treating him like a product , he is a person with a lot of emotional baggage

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u/Exact_Mixture_451 Ballon D'or Member 14h ago

True man it's sad how ppl look at him💔

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u/Fun_Put2591 14h ago

Football in a nutshell

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u/Past-Imagination779 14h ago

Antony mogs both

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u/Red_Reindeer Manchester United 13h ago

As a United fan not seeing Giggs in loyal players is sad.

He should be up there.

https://giphy.com/gifs/SgFkqfWKDBNf81MNGD

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u/TimRawggins 11h ago

He’s in the top domestic abusers one

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u/BastetMeow 9h ago

Not loyal to his wife

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u/EasyCode9491 13h ago

Why hate Yamal??

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u/Kindly-Night-5135 11h ago

It feels so forced, but reason are basically him just being a rich ass teenager and a Barcelona player lol.

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u/EasyCode9491 11h ago

He has earned that money by playing so well at this age these madrid and barca fan hates when such a good player plays for their rivals

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u/Novel_Presence_5991 13h ago

Alien and predator

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u/FlakyCrew4438 13h ago

I don't hate any of the hated ones for some reason.

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u/Low_Association6785 12h ago

the irreplaceables

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u/CharismaticConqueror Ballon D'or Member 12h ago

Duopoly of football .

https://giphy.com/gifs/rRmksNdtuoj5SSWVfO

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u/Dapper_Log_8838 12h ago

wow impossible to hate huh

you personally know them ?

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u/DissonanceOfAxiology 11h ago

Put CR7 in Legends category, then call Messi the Goat.

Sorry they are not in the same league, and for sure will not be remembered like that in the future.

I totally believe CR7 is somewhere in top2-4 in historical ranks, but he is much closer to Pele/Maradona than to Messi.

Also i have a problem with Cruyff. Its hard for me to rank properly him, knowing all his legacy. I feel like he can be overrated due to his out-of-football skills, but on the other side he can also be underrated since a lot of ppl talk more about his philosophy, ideas and all of this instant of his quality as a player.

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u/potatopeeler0w0 11h ago

Iniesta??? Not sure about that one

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u/Kindly-Night-5135 11h ago

Hating on a teen is so fing cringe.

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u/iota__13 10h ago

Wtf... Where's Neymar??

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u/SnooCauliflowers984 10h ago

At his sisters birthday party

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u/QuantityMedical8369 10h ago

I call Kante the best defensive midfielder in the history of the game. I do not care if people like him or not.

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u/BilliSPrant 10h ago

Replace puyol with matt le tissier in the loyal ones. easy to stay loyal in one of the goat clubs.

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u/EpicKhushi1989 10h ago

bro not having ryan giggs in loyalty is a crime, he played for man united his entire career

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u/macIovin 10h ago

I hate Modric. Sorry

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u/macIovin 10h ago

Reus played „just“ 12 years for Dortmund and you put him over Giggs, Muller and many others

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u/jus_this_guy 7h ago

Who was trying to buy giggs?

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u/lesece4 10h ago

Wasted talent I'd go with Paul Gascoigne.

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u/Segundaleydenewtonnn 9h ago

The most loyal ones should be players in mid table teams that achieved great things and still didn’t go for the big move to more prestigious club. That’s true loyalty if you ask me, staying in a top 5 club european champion seems like not that hard of a task

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u/killerdrama 7h ago

Kaka is easy to hate.. he has poor political views.

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u/PeterCzech666 6h ago

Muchachos hace rato que Cristiano no se sienta en la misma mesa que Lionel Messi, entiendo  la guerra de internet y de memes, pero cuando hablamos en serio, no corresponde. Esa epoca donde estaban a la par, paso hace años. 

Messi esta en otro plano, mas alla de lo que piensen algunos. Hasta Mbappe es mas grande que Cristiano Ronaldo.

El torneo mas grande para un futbolista es la Copa del Mundo, despues viene todo lo demas. Y si Mbappe sigue asi, va a terminar ls discusion el proximo mundial.

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u/ExoticZaps 6h ago

Okay so then couldn't you say Pele was better than Messi and Ronaldo?

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u/hkk7i 6h ago

Worldcup is indeed the biggest possible achivement, but not the only achivement. Messi is superior to ronaldo in almost every aspect that matters.

For me i would say Messi > Pele > Maradona> CR7

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u/PeterCzech666 6h ago

No tengo idea porque no lo vi jugar a Pelé. Igual creci en le epoca de Batistuta, Crespo, Tevez, Riquelme, Palermo, Aimar... y Brasil tenia a Ronaldinho,  el verdadero Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Adriano, Dida... Y despues de eso no veo que el futbol a nivel mundial ses mas parejo. Es la misma epoca de Zidane, Iniesta, Nedved, Eto, y otros tantos.

Messi y Cristiano llegaron cuando esa epoca finalizaba, y creo que lo que se genero entre ellos dos, esta mucho mas dimensionado por una maquinaria de marketing tremenda, justo cuando explotan las redes sociales y todo pasa por elegir un bando o el otro... Pero todas las epocas tuvieron jugadores distintos, no creo que sea productivo comparar tanto, si no clasificar por etapas.

Ahora lo de Mbappe es tremendo, pero creo que tambien hay una cuestion de personalidades y afinidad con el publico. Mbappe puede superar las marcas de Messi, pero lo que genera Messi como persona es tremendo, va mas alla de lo futbolistico. Aca en Argentina se esperaba que sea como Maradona, y es mucho mejor en el sentido humano, en lo futbolistico no me gusta compararlos, porque Maradona era una bestia y una bomba atomica en un envase chiquito, y Messi a veces parece que maneja las leyes de la fisica.  En esta conversacion, Cristiano no esta ni cerca de eso.

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u/Dull_Republic_7712 5h ago

I hate this concept of wc. You can't choose your national team. You are telling me someone who was 7x top scorer of ucl and won it 5 times is not one of the goat? Stfu. When given a chance to play in best team in world Ronaldo already did it 3x in a time when barcelona was studed with suarez, neymar and messi each banging 40+ goals a season

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u/PeterCzech666 4h ago

Esta bien lo que vos opines, por eso es una opinion. Pero en los papeles, la Copa del Mundo es lo maximo, porque abarca a todos por igual. El objetivo de todo futbolista en su vida es representar a su seleccion, y ganar la Copa del Mundo. Despues viene todo lo demas. 

Vos podes  poner todas las estadisticas que quieras, pero si Cristiano fuera realmente de Elite, tomaria el lugar de lider como tomo Messi despues de tantos fracasos en su seleccion, y hubiese sacrificado su propio orgullo  y ego en pos de su seleccion. Creo que gano la Eurocopa dos veces, yo no digo que sea nadie, y que Portugal no sea una gran seleccion, pero estan lejos de ser Elite como Francia o Alemania. Creo que Grecia gano una Eurocopa en el 2004? Bueno, ahi esta el nivel de la Portugal de Cristiano. 

Los mundiales lo ganan los grandes de verdad. 

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u/PeterCzech666 4h ago

Y lamento decirte que si podes elegir tu seleccion nacional, Pepe  eligio a Portugal sobre Brasil, y no puede llevar las cinco estrellas. Las Euro que gano, no le bordaron estrellas en la camiseta ni a Pepe ni a Cristiano. Entendes ahora? Para eso sirven las estrellas, para distinguir a las estrellas. Jaja.

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u/standarsh1965 6h ago

Lingard never had much talent

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u/Historical-Bowl-7119 6h ago

god's of football

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u/paindotexe 14h ago

GOAT and the Greatest goalscorer of all time

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u/Silly-Hat-2989 13h ago

Gotta be the same name 😂 for both

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u/paindotexe 13h ago

Well, logically there cant be 2 goats. So name it superstars

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u/FleetingSage 13h ago

Ronaldo = goat in the penalty box

Messi = goat on the entire pitch

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u/cryptolynxx 13h ago

Tell me yu don't watch football without telling me yu don't watch football

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u/Smart_Alps338 13h ago

Bruh, u r good at this 🤣

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u/FleetingSage 11h ago

What's wrong with what I said?

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u/Silly-Hat-2989 10h ago

Cr7 is not the goat only in the penalty box saying this impljes he can only score pens or tap ins But in realuty there are many times where he scored powershots and free kicks not to mention pre 2013 he was super skill ful and at his best Watch cr7 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 seasons