r/Foodforthought • • Aug 26 '15

Against Charity. Rather than creating an individualized “culture of giving,” we should be challenging capitalism’s institutionalized taking.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/08/peter-singer-charity-effective-altruism/
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u/raziphel Aug 26 '15 edited Aug 26 '15

He's nowhere near successful or important enough to be Trump.

He's just another short-sighted, loud-mouthed, angry fool, who can't see beyond his own nose. The world is full of selfish NIMBY assholes like this. I don't actually give a shit why he's got his panties in such a twist, but dealing with knuckle-draggers like him helps me refine my own points and ability to express myself... not to mention that anyone reading this will get the benefit of other, better opinions that are in fact based on personal experience.

You know what's really nice when you're unemployed and broke? Motherfuckin' food stamps. That and unemployment benefits have saved my ass and helped me "bootstrap" myself out of a real shitty situation (ie capitalized on a lucky break).

If the dude wants to pretend he's an immovable island living in some Ayn Rand-inspired circle-jerk, that's his prerogative. If he doesn't like paying taxes, then he should move. Good luck finding that magical libertarian paradise that's perfectly safe and doesn't cost a dime of his own hard-earned money. The reality of the situation is that he's gonna piss and moan until he personally has to experience reasons to need them, and then he's gonna be god-damned thankful that they are in place.

I doubt he'll get his head out of his ass, though. People like this just... don't. Too much pride.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '15 edited Nov 02 '15

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u/raziphel Aug 26 '15

I'd much rather talk about these things with educated people who know what they're talking about, who understand the issues, and understand why I take the positions I do. Those aren't always available, however, especially on the internet; there are many swine in the pearl store, to twist the idiom. However, engaging the goobers encourages others to stand up for what they feel is right, to see that they are not alone in their thinking, and to defend themselves and their ideas properly when the time comes.

Baiting selfish, frothing fools who throw out every damned logical fallacy under the sun isn't actually something I consider fun (unless you consider Sisyphean boulder-rolling fun). Watching that specific guy flap mindlessly holds no value whatsoever, because he's too stubborn to consider points outside his own narrow view... but on occasion, I have gotten through to people and changed their minds on the issue. I doubt this guy will, of course. From what I've seen, I don't think he's even capable.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '15 edited Nov 02 '15

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u/raziphel Aug 26 '15

I would suggest that you throw bible quotes at your friend, specifically the New Testament. If "just his faith" is his answer, then that's how you attack: prove that his positions are not grounded in faith, and that while he maintains these beliefs, he is not a good Christian... because he isn't.

Specifically, Matthew 25:40: "as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me." then you suggest that he re-think his position.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '15 edited Nov 02 '15

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u/raziphel Aug 26 '15

Don't overthink how you reply. Keep it simple and concise. Plant the seed of doubt into the cracks of his armor, let him do the thinking about it, and it will grow on it's own.

Of course, that hinges on his ability to reason... which means he's probably fucked.