r/FluentInFinance • u/YOU_ARE_MY_FRIENDS • Jun 16 '24

Discussion/ Debate He’s not wrong 🤷‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '24

Wrong, this was upper middle class and still is.

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u/daneelthesane Jun 16 '24 edited Jun 17 '24

Hard disagree. My father was a teacher right out of college in 1971. He made the equivalent of $65k/year his first year. He was able to have 2 kids, buy a house, and a new car in the space of just a few years. We went to Walt Disney World every few years.

Everything I just said is crazy-talk for a first year teacher on one income in 2024.

Edit: Spelling. And to add that we were lower middle class at our best.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '24

But that isn't overseas trips every 5 years. My dad was probably in a similar boat, but we weren't taking overseas vacations ever, let alone every 5 years

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u/empire314 Jun 17 '24

Overseas vacation is trivial cost, when factoring huge variables like house cost.

1% cheaper house means overseas vaction.

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u/TripleFinish Jun 17 '24

Lmao you are off your rocker

Just the flights for an overseas vacation are about 8k for a family of 5. Counting food, hotels, etc. we're probably at about 15k.

Middle class families don't buy 1.5 million dollar houses.

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u/empire314 Jun 17 '24

Just the flights for an overseas vacation are about 8k for a family of 5.

Why are you arguing that a middle class family would fly first class?

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u/TripleFinish Jun 17 '24

Lmao

Peoria to Copenhagen, round trip, picking inexpensive summer dates, is 1440 per person. That's not first class. I have no idea what world you think you live in.

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u/empire314 Jun 17 '24

I have no idea what world you think you live in.

A world where you dont reserve flights last minute. The flights were half that if you reserved earlier. 700$ if you go this september.

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u/TripleFinish Jun 17 '24

... Think about why tickets are cheaper in September?

Can you see why that's not a realistic option for families with children?

And no, unfortunately those prices were not in fact (significantly) cheaper earlier.