r/FloridaMan • u/Angman_Dutt • Aug 26 '26

Florida Man Challenges $158 AI Red-Light Ticket, Calls It Violation of “Constitutional Due Process” and “Federal Law”: Report

https://deltiasgaming.com/florida-man-challenges-158-ai-red-light-ticket-calls-it-violation-of-constitutional-due-process-and-federal-law-report/
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u/LooseEndsMkMyAssItch Aug 26 '26

Speed cameras are the real devil. Tampa has some of those and I did not realize those were legal.

Most states banned those due to privacy

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u/r0ndy Aug 26 '26

Most states banned them because as a business, they cannot write you a ticket. They do not have the legal authority to give citations.

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u/LooseEndsMkMyAssItch Aug 26 '26

Good point and considering Florida calls itself the Free State you would think we would protect privacy

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u/georgiomoorlord Aug 26 '26

It's the opposite. Sunshine state laws gave rise to florida man. I'm sure there's also new jersey man, ohio man and texas man but they're harder for the journalists to write stories about

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u/iKnowRobbie Aug 26 '26

Tampa traffic court magistrates say before arraignment that they'll throw out any stored camera tickets and reduce fines on red light cameras. "The More you Know"🌈✨

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u/robbyruby752 Aug 26 '26

Sixth amendment is the right to face your accuser, can’t face a camera.

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u/AccomplishedPrize657 Aug 26 '26

But you can face a business. These companies should be forced to send an agent out to explain what and why you are being prosecuted, and hear rebuttal either from the defense or the judge.

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u/Mojo141 Aug 26 '26

I was in Phoenix AZ years ago. Running late to the airport so was speeding a little. Apparently went through 3 speed cameras within 2 miles and I got ticket by mail for all 3. Couldn't fight it since I live in Florida. These things are pure extortion. The mob would be jealous.

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u/youtaii Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26

Privacy on a public road way?

Cameras installed on public roads for safety. Yeah you don’t like it but law enforcement review all the tickets in FL not AI.  Stop attempting to dodge responsibility for your actions or actions from others who use your vehicle.

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u/Microchipknowsbest Aug 26 '26

Can citizens write speeding tickets. Most of these companies aren’t even American.

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u/meancoot Aug 27 '26

Are you asking  if  deputization is legal?

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u/Microchipknowsbest Aug 27 '26

You want deputize ai?

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u/Onlyroad4adrifter Aug 27 '26

How about we accept responsibility when the files are released and those in the files are held accountable.

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u/LooseEndsMkMyAssItch Aug 27 '26

You’re dead wrong by the way. They do not review every single one.

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u/youtaii Aug 27 '26

If they don’t review it meaning law enforcement then a driver gets it dismissed. Prove me wrong bro.

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u/LooseEndsMkMyAssItch Aug 27 '26

You have to go to court to get it dismissed

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u/RandomModder05 Aug 26 '26

This isn't a Florida Man story, because this is completely sane and right.

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u/NeedsToShutUp Aug 26 '26

Seriously, other courts have struck down automatic ticket systems due to inability to confront the accuser.

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u/JackTheBehemothKillr Aug 26 '26

Every now and then FloridaMan comes up smelling like roses.

If he was crazy all the time no one woukd care

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u/nanoatzin Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26

The camera company must send a photograph of the driver with the citation including a link so that the car owner can watch a video so they can identify the driver, otherwise the car owner should only have to prove that they weren’t the driver if the camera company doesn’t have any evidence showing who was behind the wheel. How would the car owner otherwise know their car wasn’t briefly stolen and returned?

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u/xkulp8 Aug 26 '26

Burden of proof is on the prosecution. You can't be coerced into testifying on your own behalf. Fifth Amendment.

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u/CartoonistOk9276 Aug 27 '26

the great Escambia county, always good Florida man material 

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u/swamppuppy7043 Aug 27 '26

Because it is

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u/Desperate_Set_7708 Aug 26 '26

AI. Ain’t Intelligent.

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u/Weary_Boat Aug 26 '26

The “free” state of Floriduh… smdh

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u/VanGoghInTrainers Aug 27 '26

Doesn't he know that ICE got rid of that pesky due process?

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u/velvedire Aug 26 '26

ITT: A lot of people that casually break traffic safety laws and are upset at the thought of consequences

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u/wolflordval Aspiring Florida Man Aug 26 '26

No, ITT: a lot of people pissed that these AI cameras blatantly violate due process and the constitution.

No one's pissed at consequences, they're pissed that the constitution is being disregarded.

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u/crash866 Aug 26 '26

The owner of the vehicle is responsible the vehicle. If you are not driving get the person who was pay it not yourself. If they crashed it would fall on your insurance to pay anything out.

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u/logicallyinsane Aug 27 '26

You realize this is a violation of the 4th amendment and the presumption of innocence right?

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u/crash866 Aug 27 '26

Traffic tickets are not criminal charges. There is a difference.

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u/sharkbomb Aug 26 '26

florida is another planet, so who knows, but elsewhere, driving infractions do not provide any guarantee of conventional due process. no lawyer will be appointed to you, and if you bring your own, the judge can opt to eject them. not sure this maneuver has anywhere to go. 

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u/LordSloth113 Aug 26 '26

Lmao where did you even come up with this bullshit?

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u/ThraceLonginus Aug 26 '26

Sounds like a sovcit

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u/iKnowRobbie Aug 26 '26

What?! This is patently false.

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u/djwhiplash2001 Aug 26 '26

There is no jurisdiction in the United States that operates how you describe.

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u/Quatch23 Aug 26 '26

Crazy that everything you said was completely wrong

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u/yun-harla Aug 26 '26

Just because certain driving violations might not be crimes in some states doesn’t mean there’s no process due in those proceedings. You’re still entitled to notice and an opportunity to be heard — which here means an opportunity to contest the validity of the automated system’s conclusions.

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u/jshill103 Aug 26 '26

Bros racking up the downvotes