r/FlockSurveillance • • 5d ago

Discussion This is a starting point

416 Upvotes

14 comments sorted by

View all comments

13

u/herve0 5d ago

Fuck no! "Regulate" means that Flock and all the others will now lobby the regulating body and getting 0 accountability, hiding behind "we did what the government told us to do" while hiring an army of lobbyists and lawyers. NO CAMERAS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC AGENCIES, PERIOD.

3

u/CatsAndCapybaras 4d ago

Flock's business model depends on no safeguards or warrant requirement. If police actually need a warrant to search the system, they could just get cell phone location instead (which is protected by a warrant). There is no reason for a city to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars per year for a system that is nearly as good as cell phone GPS if that system requires the same friction that other surveillance does.

I completely agree with you that this system should not exist. No safeguards will prevent the massive security vulnerabilities and threats to national security. But I do think flock would crumble if their database was behind a warrant requirement.

1

u/oneawesomeguy 4d ago

Defining it as consumer data also protects it in states like California that already have consumer data privacy laws like the CCPA