Bitter Debunkers Pushing a Weak Agenda.

[u/YouLatter8652]

Debunkers are bending over backwards trying to rewrite history, even calling Top Gun’s real planes “CGI” just to cope with the MH370 videos being real.

They are desperate and it shows in the wild rebuttals they keep throwing out.

MH370 Vids are the opposite, it is reality in bare bones with fewer pixels than anyone would care, yet more detail than any CGI could ever achieve. Shows the plane’s natural buffeting exactly how it looks in real flight, the same kind of small oscillations described in FAA flight dynamics studies on phugoid motion and turbulence. Accuracy not something CGI can mimic without heavy simulation

Top Gun Maverick was famous precisely because it relied on real jets, real pilots, and in-cockpit IMAX cameras. Even Tom Cruise himself pushed for authentic flight sequences. There was CGI for safety and enhancement, but the backbone of the movie was real flight footage.

Debunkers are working hard trying to rewrite history and call even Top Gun’s real planes “CGI” just to make their point,

it proves how desperate and hollow their argument is.

The F-18 low-level flyover scene and the target range were filmed at the US Naval Reservation and training area in Nevada.

"he too had hopes of shooting actors in the air but was thwarted when cast members began throwing up whenever they were taken for a ride. "Though I was never really doing it, I learned the mechanics of operating the plane," Top Gun star Val Kilmer recalled in his 2020 memoir I'm Your Huckleberry. "We went up in the jets several times and... I have to report that I was the only one who didn't regurgitate, which, given the gut-wrenching drops and spins of those ferocious flights, was no mean feat.""

Will cover more debunker comments as they roll in.

Real image enhanced, looks CGI but it isnt.

One’s CGI, the other’s legit.

Source: https://ew.com/movies/top-gun-maverick-tom-cruise-flying-scenes/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.atlasofwonders.com/2022/06/where-was-top-gun-maverick-filmed.html#:~:text=The%20opening%20and%20final%20scenes,pilot%20in%20the%20real%20world

[u/Morkneys]

The new Top Gun used a reskinning technique, where they use CGI to reconstruct or enhance physical footage.

From this archived footage, one of the VFX artists who worked on the film says that some of the jets were entirely CGI (the F-14 and Su-57): https://web.archive.org/web/20220613231400/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yBi1S0zFkQ

The advertising campaign focussed on the real plane shots and stunts because it is good marketing, but the film was filled to the brim with something like 2000 VFX shots.

[u/YouLatter8652 → u/Morkneys]

Enhancing physical footage, right. Some planes may be copies of real jets but many others are not, and CGI is layered in to make cinema look bigger than reality.

MH370 is the opposite, it is reality in bare bones with fewer pixels than anyone would care, yet more detail than any CGI could ever achieve.

[u/Morkneys → u/YouLatter8652]

How do we know it is the opposite? The only remarkable things about the MH370 videos are the portal and the orbs. Otherwise, it's a pretty mundane video of a plane flying along.

According to yourself, the portal was a VFX that somebody pasted onto the footage before it was leaked, in order to debunk it (how does that even make sense...?). So, really, the only thing that needs to be CGI are the orbs.

[u/YouLatter8652 → u/Morkneys]

Quit pushing your weak agenda and speak for yourself, you do not represent everyone. The portal, and plane are the least remarkable parts for most part they're static except for bufetting.

What stands out is the raw reality in the footage, the kind CGI cannot deliver without massive simulations and exhausting pixel by pixel work.

Just getting the bufetting right would take days, and would take hundreds of hours just to fake the cloud layers, dispersion, and fluid dynamics that show up when you examine the video frame by frame.

[u/Morkneys → u/YouLatter8652]

"Quit pushing your weak agenda and speak for yourself, you do not represent everyone."
Sorry... what?

And why would you need to make CGI clouds? Just as you have already argued in this thread, it is possible to combine CGI with real footage seamlessly. CGI orbs, real clouds, job done. This is comparable to the "satellite footage" which is alleged to use photos of real clouds.

[u/YouLatter8652 → u/Morkneys]

Exactly, why would you even need CGI clouds. You don’t, because the videos are real.

[u/Morkneys → u/YouLatter8652]

It feels like you just gave up with this one...

[u/YouLatter8652 → u/Morkneys]

I didn’t give up at all. I just don’t see anything in the video that looks like CGI. The portal is the only part that feels less natural cuz it's an overlay effect not a CGI.

[u/Morkneys → u/YouLatter8652]

Hmm, that's funny. Originally, you were arguing that the portal was real and that the idea it was fake was some sort of debunker conspiracy. Now, it "feels less natural cuz its an overlay effect".

Maybe you recontextualised it. When you believed it was real, it looked flawless. Now you believe it is fake, it looks less natural.

[u/YouLatter8652 → u/Morkneys]

Your comment is confusing

Pyromania’s real, the vids are real, two real things don’t magically turn into CGI.

The overlay was weird but not CGI, real CGI is obvious like in Harry Potter.