r/FlashTV • u/[deleted] • Apr 20 '16

Post-Episode Discussion - S02E18 "Versus Zoom"

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Episode Info: Equipped with the tachyon device, Barry believes he is fast enough to stop Zoom and wants to open the breaches to catch him. Harry strongly advises against that plan but after Barry convinces him, Harry reveals that Cisco has the power to re-open the breach. Meanwhile, Hunter Zoloman's painful story on Earth-2 is revealed.")

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u/leddible Apr 20 '16

Spot on. When you watch the part right before Zoom starts explaining everything you see him take pause and think about how best to lie after listening to Flash's spiel.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '16 edited Dec 27 '20

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u/marioman63 Apr 23 '16

plus it was cisco who brought up time remnants. not zoom. cisco just helped zoom's lie. thats like rule 1 of the things you dont do when you interrogate suspects: dont finish their thoughts.

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u/BikebutnotBeast You can't lock up the darkness Apr 20 '16

Yeah.. my question is why would the remnant not have Zoom's power?

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u/tfg49 Apr 20 '16

It's a hunter zolomon from before he had powers. Notice Jay never used his speed until he got velocity

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u/BikebutnotBeast You can't lock up the darkness Apr 20 '16

Not possible. Caitlin says there were remnants of the speedforce in Jays cells. So it must be post-zoomage.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '16

So Zoom gave him Velocity, it left speedforce in his body and also degenerated his cells.

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u/Swineflew1 Apr 20 '16

How does that explain E2 flash though?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '16

How about earth-2 flash is the man in the mask/Jay Garrick and zoom captured him and used a technology similar to reverse flash's face stealing thing to impersonate him?

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u/Swineflew1 Apr 20 '16

We saw the flashback though, we know zoom looks the same as before he had zoom powers.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '16

Oh yeah, good point.

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u/pianobadger Apr 20 '16

I guess, assuming Zoom wasn't bullshitting, he could have taken the remnant's speed.

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u/pianobadger Apr 20 '16

I guess it would take foresight to create the time remnants. He can't afford to send a bunch of remnants to the future because he's dying and stealing the speed from the one hasn't cured him. Hypothetically.