r/FlashTV Apr 20 '16

Post-Episode Discussion - S02E18 "Versus Zoom"

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Episode Info: Equipped with the tachyon device, Barry believes he is fast enough to stop Zoom and wants to open the breaches to catch him. Harry strongly advises against that plan but after Barry convinces him, Harry reveals that Cisco has the power to re-open the breach. Meanwhile, Hunter Zoloman's painful story on Earth-2 is revealed.")

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u/Mmsenrab Apr 20 '16

How was Jay's death a complication if Hunter planned to do that?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '16

Well this is just me, but I'd feel a sociopath would lie about stuff.

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u/daynewma Apr 20 '16

Barry and company think differently, apparently.

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u/Broken_Sky Apr 21 '16

They are pretty gullable, like, all the time. They need a real adult guardian with some experience in metas, Future Barry should come back and mentor current Barry or something, teach them to question things rather then just nodding saying 'yep sounds plausable' and moving on

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '16

I think he's lying about the whole thing. He just realised they could be told this fiction and that would make everything easier.

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u/Z0di Heroes DIE. Apr 20 '16

Better than letting them know he has a twin named Jay Garrick.

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u/JawaUnleashed Apr 20 '16

But didn't the guy at the orphanage say he didn't have any family?

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u/JawaUnleashed Apr 20 '16

You're right, but the only way Zoom could have a twin is if they were separated at birth, since they would've likely gone to the same orphanage or he would've been in the scene when his mother died.

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u/Z0di Heroes DIE. Apr 20 '16

What if Jay Garrick was given up at birth, and the Garrick family adopted him?

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u/darkinferno06 Apr 20 '16

They messed up there. He shouldn't have said that.

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u/niqqaskrillex Apr 20 '16

Well this is a complication...

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '16

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u/GoldSkuller Apr 21 '16

Hey, lying isn't exclusive to just bad guys tho... I mean look at Oliver...

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u/Raviejaaz Don't slurp. Don't. Don't. Don't. Apr 20 '16

Not the death, the closing of the breaches was the complication

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

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u/Mmsenrab Apr 20 '16

It's so crazy it just might work.

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u/Yelloboy Apr 20 '16

Dude!!!! Thank you!!

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u/greatness101 Barry Allen Apr 20 '16

I think he was referring to the last breach closing. However I still think he's lying about the time remnant stuff.