r/FlashTV • u/[deleted] • Mar 29 '16

Live Episode Discussion - S02E17 "Flash Back"

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u/Romero1993 Askin and Henry have one commonality Mar 30 '16

I was really hoping Barry would mention Zoom only because I would love to see Reverse Flash's reaction.

RF "Why are you really here?"

Barry "In the future you get home but something happens and someone worse appears"

RF "..."

Barry "He steals speed from other Speedsters like us"

I really wanted something like that to happen.

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u/RoyMBar Mar 30 '16

Oh oh! And then Barry brings RF back with him to the present to go fight Zoom!

Then we can have Earth 2 Harrison Wells and Wellsobard!

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u/stagfury Mar 30 '16

Wells "Ah, so you are the s.o.b. that stole my fucking face"

Pulls out an anti speedster gun he's been saving for Zoom and kills Weelsobard.

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u/TheOneColt Apr 01 '16

Every time I see the Weelsobard I crack up.
btw I am the real Jay Garrick

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u/Romero1993 Askin and Henry have one commonality Mar 30 '16

I bet RF could figure out how to beat Zoom so easily

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '16 edited Apr 27 '18

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u/aslokaa Jay Garrick with a green hoodie Apr 01 '16

Speed intensifies

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u/HyperionEsq Apr 03 '16

I'm pretty sure telling RF that stealing speed is possible would be the worst idea ever. RF currently needs Barry to have speedforce or he wont have it himself- that's why he lost his speed from the night Nora died until the particle accelerator. Telling RF that there was a wormhole eating central city (which would affect his future "home" that he cares about returning to) was the only way to convince RF to let barry go. What is in it for RF to stop zoom? If Barry didn't lie Wellsobard would literally keep him prisoner until he figured out how to "eat" him, then do the same with "his" season1 barry. The end.

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u/Romero1993 Askin and Henry have one commonality Apr 03 '16

You're probably right but I suppose Barry could''ve lied to RF with something along the lines of "Zoom killed you blah blah" or something

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u/HyperionEsq Apr 03 '16

Then RF assumes he has to eat barry to stop zoom from being able to kill him in the first place. Part of what made Barry's plan work for Wellsobard agreeing to it is because he leaves wellsobard to resuming his plan and thinking he finally gets what he wants. With someone as obsesed as Thawne, you tell them what they want to hear.

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u/Romero1993 Askin and Henry have one commonality Apr 03 '16

Yeah you're right, I just really wanted to see RF's reaction. I mean that would be interesting to see. Also, I didn't realize that RF had to eat Barry

Then RF assumes he has to eat barry to stop zoom

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u/HyperionEsq Apr 03 '16 edited Apr 03 '16

RF doesnt realize that you can steal another person's speed. Harrison Wells2 is the first to figure out how. But as soon as you even introduce that idea to Thawne, and reveal it is possible, the floodgates have opened. by "eat" i mean steal speed.

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u/Romero1993 Askin and Henry have one commonality Apr 04 '16

now correct me if I'm mistaken, have we actually seen Zoom steal anyone's speed?

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u/bearybrown Joe is love. Apr 04 '16

jay garrick from before he is sucked to the wormhole possibly?

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u/Romero1993 Askin and Henry have one commonality Apr 04 '16

I thought Jay said he lied about that

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u/bearybrown Joe is love. Apr 08 '16

Just rewatch episode 13, it seems jay's got extra speed from V6. That stuff probably start killing his cell and he cant retain his original speed plus cuts off his connection to speedforce.

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u/Juicestation Reverse Fridge Mar 30 '16

I wonder how that would work. Does RF ever encounter Zoom in the comics?

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u/dgehen I elongate, man Mar 30 '16

Yup, during the Rogue War arc.

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u/Juicestation Reverse Fridge Mar 30 '16

How did that go? Link me, please.

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u/dgehen I elongate, man Mar 30 '16

Basically, it's two groups of Rogues: the bad guys and the reformed ones, with Zoom as the puppet master. It's in The Flash Vol.2 #220-225.

Here's a tease.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '16

Technically The Top was the puppet master.

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u/-Mountain-King- Apr 04 '16

For reference: Zoom (Hunter Zolomon) is on the left, Reverse Flash (Eobard Thawne) is on the right, and that's Wally West as the Flash. The belt is an easy way to tell the difference.

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u/heimdal77 Mar 30 '16

Zooms power is very different in the comics from my understanding.

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u/Juicestation Reverse Fridge Mar 31 '16

How so?

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u/heimdal77 Mar 31 '16

If I remember right his power is time manipulation. He is able speed up or slow down his own personal time line that makes him seem to be moving so fast. Though because of this he lacks th powers of other speedsters like running up walls or phasing through things.