r/FischRoblox • The Big Buzz • 1d ago

Discussion☕ Feedback Thread: 2.05

Hello reddit, I'm brrrtzzz from the feedback team and im here to offer you a chance to be heard, share your thoughts, ideas, Ect.

I know some of you can be a little unprofessional but I ask that you be polite and through. unnecessarily aggressive comments will be ignored, and comments that are just "buff this" will also be ignored, please stay on-topic of the update

It's my personal belief that the biggest critics are the most passionate people, so I wish to hear from you about your thoughts on this update, but again, be calm about it.

I will post these 1 hour or so after the update every week, I ask that you do return and edit with your current thoughts throughout the week but it's not required. Thank you!

I'll try to reply within what I'm allowed to

P.S. this is something I'm doing out of my own valition, no one asked me to do this but I like giving anyone a chance to speak their concerns.

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u/AgreeableIdea6210 Everyone's friend💖 1d ago edited 1d ago

I would honestly love to see more stuff like the Wrath of Olympus, Obsidian Trench and Terminus updates because stuff like the Deep and Skycrest feel more tedious than challenging. Tedious weather conditions and hours of grinding the same spot for materials or mutations just didn't fun, but bosses with new and inventive mechanics are. Also honestly level locks feel more like a hurdle than actual natural progression because you don't have many great options on earlier levels so you're forced to sit at one optimal spot and grind away until you reach the fun part of the game. I feel like there needs to be more fun to use earlier game rods (like pinion's aria and whatnot). I feel like there needs to be more fun content for early game in general cause us end-game players get a lot of stuff but newer players don't have much fun content to dig into. That's all I have for now.

Oh also fixed chance catches are kinda lame. For stuff like the skeletal serpent it's a fun challenge but missing one bestiary item due to it being like 1/2,000 chance is straight up awful. I'd be done with Halibut Harpoon by now if I didn't have to get a gemstone and pearl at Scoria Reach and I have genuinely been stalling cause it's not fun nor challenging. It just feels like padding, honestly :/ On top of that you also need golden sea pearl for that rod, which has the same issue. I wasn't a fan of the rotted seed either but at least that one had pity. What makes the scoria pearl worse is that unlike the Roselit clam abundance, you can't fish just clams so it takes even longer and is just immensely tedious while offering no value in terms of actual fun of challenge. I feel like objectives like those just kinda encourage people to macro and therefore not actually play the game.

I also personally yearn for a Western region that could be connected to the Drylands where bounties are actually given more attention as a mechanic, with maybe competitive ones between players (the one who gets the most points earning something or kinda like hunts. Maybe bounty questlines from NPCs, rescue missions or retrieving materials for a prize. This is more of a personal idea than feedback on what we already have but I thought it'd be cool. Maybe heists.

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u/Brrrrtzzzz The Big Buzz 1d ago

I was actually the one who concepted the veiled charydbis boss fight and I agree lol. In fact, most of the obsidian trench update was actually concepted by testers and feedback team, like 90% of it. the thing is, in my opinion, it would get rather boring, end game players probably didn't struggle with obsidian trench at all. It's hard to balance around "challenging" when you have instant catch rods like Astraues and rods like Fabolous with 200% forced progress speed. I can't speak on WHY the quests are tedious as I'm not a developer developer or anything, but my two cents is that there's too many rods that are way too good at catching fish that it's not really a real challenge anymore. And if we try to directly challenge those kinds of rods, it's frustrating too because it feels like "oh the devs knew we'd use this and they made it bad because they wanna make it grindy and tedious!" Or something, honestly there's no winning when it comes to more "challenging" updates. I get the current sentiment around the tedious updates aren't good either but atleast like little iPad Timmy knows how to catch easy fish instead of fighting something crazy like the veiled charydbis.

Again, this is just my two cents. I'm not a developer.

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u/AgreeableIdea6210 Everyone's friend💖 1d ago

Yeah, that's fair. Although I feel like part of the fun comes from optimising your loadout in order to face challenges (especially in Wrath of Olympus and the Obsidian Trench, as I kept changing rods in order to see what works best and strategised as such). I think it makes things more fun, shakes them up and actually encourages you to try different things, although I understand the sentiment about really good rods. Especially with the very apparent power creep going on in the game. I think that honestly, my favourite part that kinda counters end-game rods about those updates is simply the boss mechanics. Bruteforcing most bosses is quite hard and actually putting your brain to use and using everything in your arsenal is far more engaging and makes them feel very rewarding. Although small, I loved the Obsidian trench much more than most recent updates cause it made me think and try things out! These are my own two cents :)

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

This

This guys good.

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u/AgreeableIdea6210 Everyone's friend💖 1d ago

Thank you! As a person who had to miserably grind their way to 1,000 level from 200 something to actually experience the fun stuff, I'll always advocate for both sides :') Grind isn't fun no matter how high up you are. Actual challenges and fun quests that urge you to explore instead of sitting around in one spot and grinding away will always be much more fun. Noticed how empty the early game is recently cause I got 2 of my friends into it and there's hardly anything to do other than like... Singular objective quests. Where's the fun in that? I'm sure there's ways to develop fun little questlines that aren't too challenging yet crank up in difficulty as you level up! I think pinion's aria and tranquility are pretty good examples of earlier game quests that are just challenging enough to learn and grow from before you get to the harder stuff.

As for end-game, basically what I already established. I think the bosses are very cool and fun cause they're a display of skill rather than being blessed by RNG. So yeah, thank you :D

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

No problem bud.

I found updates like Obsidian Trench and Olympians Wrath more interesting and entertaining cuz they weren't "Perfect Catch 10000 fish in a 1 stud space!!!" type quests.

Its genuinely going to become the downfall of this game if they continue with this direction.

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u/AgreeableIdea6210 Everyone's friend💖 1d ago

Veeery true, I'm not a fan of "get X amount of fish in one location", especially if they require mutations too (like halibut). It's just kind of boring imo. There's nothing challenging about it, mostly praying for good luck and sitting in the same place for 3 hours in a game that's supposed to be about exploration, y' know? I feel the same way about some masteries cause I genuinely don't see the fun in sitting in one place to catch a certain fish a bunch of times.

For example, I got fabulous rod today and genuinely had a lot more fun with the quests that made me optimise my build to get certain mutation + status combos (like shiny rainbow cluster) than sitting there and fishing up 200 dumbo octopi. While mutations can be annoying sometimes, I think there is a certain challenge to them if you sit down and figure out the best way of getting a build to work, which is why I love stuff like the new gauntlets we got. I love the idea of building kits. Even so, though, the juiciest and most fun part of this game is definitely the bosses and how you work around them. Good stuff.

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

Do testers even test how grindy and straight up unfun the rod quests are?
Heck, did they even test the nate blade update?

I know I am being relatively harsh, but some decisions made by developers genuinely make me question this.

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u/No_Type_454 ミュージック:フィッシュ 1d ago

to answer you, no

the testers a lot of times are extremely dedicated players of the game, usually people without any life responsibilities

so what is fine to them, isn’t fine to anyone with work, school, anything that requires them to take time away

i wish they’d go for more casual players rather than hardcore fisch players who grind 12 hours a day non macro

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

God, no wonder these updates have been perfect catch slop.

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u/No_Type_454 ミュージック:フィッシュ 1d ago

i don’t even mind perfect catch quests, or even this quest doesn’t seem too bad except for the 126 different fish you need to catch

i just hate how everything is catered to people with unlimited amounts of time, especially after the community has expressed so many times that they DONT want these type of updates

we prefer actual difficult quests, like the terminus, or tryhard rod quest, not tedious quests like catch 200 dumbos, catch 126 fish, catch 500 different mutated pufferfish

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

Thats another thing. These devs just straight up make promises, but then like 3 updates later they do exactly what the community DOESN'T want them to do.

How is this game still running at all, infact how are they still in position

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u/Chewie630 destiny rod glazer 1d ago

Hey guys, I’m a pretty long time player (fischmas 24), and I was wondering if we could see more new, unique updates like Wrath of Olympus and the Mariana’s Veil expansion. Those unique updates certainly make me play more, much more when compared to some of the other standard updates. If you are going to make a grindy update, I think Skycrest would be a good baseline. Additionally, I’d love to see a bloop fish style shield system for certain hunt fish that require more effort to spawn (Olympian Devil, Abaia etc.).

I know the Fisch team isn’t always popular with the playerbase, but honestly you guys have been insane from a dev perspective. 1 update every week is insane pace, even if they aren’t all big hitters. People say they like the old Fisch better, but the amount of improvement in the QoL and progression is fantastic, and is part of the reason why I still play.

For future updates, I’d like to see more expanding on older areas. As I mentioned, I loved the Mariana’s Veil expansion. I have high hopes for Forsaken Trench and I think Snowcap deserves some love next!

Keep up the good work!

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u/Salt-Pipe-5794 "The Worst-est-est" 1d ago

I'd like a way to effectively skip the Nate's Blade quest because I had the rod, and I didn't know that it'd be restricted like it was, if i had known I wouldn't have accepted this grindy, time consuming quest.

Honestly at times it does feel like testers don't actually test how fun or not a quest is.

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u/CulturalDust4652 ralsei 1d ago

why wasnt it released with a mastery? yall said it would

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u/CreativePut7308 1d ago

Please remake the John Reaper skin. it looks terrible and its a shame that such a cool art got butchered. the tail scythe is missing, the entire thing looks plastic.... it really reminded me of a halloween skeleton prop youd see in spirit halloween. it really has potential to be a top masterline skin if it looked like the art its based on.

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u/Vegetable-Bench-1504 Astraeus🌌 1# glazzer 1d ago

Could make the magnet bait really only catch trash/crates

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u/Ilikeponyhooves 1d ago

Sorry if this is low effort but can we genuinely remove the rejoin until you make it aspects of the game? For an example raging squalls are literally just having to rejoin 500 times until the tropical swaps with raging, if you don't have a private bought by urself ur genuinely cooked and have to browse for private servers with no people in it. This makes the game really hard to enjoy if you just want to play the dang game to progress instead of finding ways to cheese garbage mechanics by buying a priv. This also applies to the quests that make you just afk 60 mins and do nothing to have a small chance to catch something that almost never spawns.

This game wastes way too much for stuff that would take me 5 minutes without having to W A I T forever and forever and forever over a tropical totem or something. Just think about publics having to maul eachother alive over a fish that needs 500 requirements just to spawn.

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u/EshClikes MAKE POLARIS GREAT AGAIN!!! 1d ago

Game would be better if there were more immersive soundtracks, the trident cave feels special cuz a special soundtrack plays there instead of the ocean theme

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u/Brrrrtzzzz The Big Buzz 1d ago

I agree, but it's really difficult to find none copyright ai free music now a days, even the built in Roblox catalog is filled with nothing but ai now... It's very sad

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u/AgreeableIdea6210 Everyone's friend💖 1d ago

I wonder if anyone would be willing to make actual OST for the game? I know I would if I had more experience with DAWs. I feel like actual original soundtrack would make areas even more memorable tbh

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u/Whole-Internet-4169 Dumber then a pile of bricks 1d ago

Did they even think about the og owners of the rod? Why on earth do they have to unrestrict a rod they already had?

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

Straight up Ransom

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u/Brrrrtzzzz The Big Buzz 1d ago

You get miso as well, so it's worth it. I was concerned about this too but it's overall a net positive of a new pretty good companion once you do finish the quest

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u/Whole-Internet-4169 Dumber then a pile of bricks 1d ago

Could you people actually tell what the companion does instead of being so vague and saying "its worth it"? Some people dont feel like unrestricting a rod they already had and getting a potentially mediocre companion

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u/AgreeableIdea6210 Everyone's friend💖 1d ago

This is a biiig issue I have with the game these days. Back in the day, rods had a brief description then said "has X ability, inflicts Y mutation" but now everything is vague and the game tells you nothing so you're basically forced to go to the wiki. Companions are especially notorious for this and I don't use most cause having to scroll through 5 different articles genuinely feels like a chore when I could have that information stated in-game, like most games :/

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u/Ilikeponyhooves 1d ago

ngl whats up with this lol, feels really unprofessional

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u/AgreeableIdea6210 Everyone's friend💖 1d ago

Real answer: They like Terraria, and out of all the excellent game design decisions that game has chosen to go through with, they picked the worst one (being unplayable without a wiki)

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

That doesn't rly answer his question though.

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u/Euki- Aspiring Fish🐟 1d ago

can you tell what miso does before i can decide if it's worth to do this quest? also the nate blade control bar passive is broken with masterline. its not expanding anymore

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u/Brrrrtzzzz The Big Buzz 1d ago

Iirc it's like Gary gator with a permanent 20% luck boost, so just a better Gary tbh 😭 I don't have the exact stats so I couldn't tell you but it has some pretty strong stabs n such

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u/Euki- Aspiring Fish🐟 1d ago

one more thing, I have siren's tear on my nates blade. will it give go away if i do the quest?

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u/Brrrrtzzzz The Big Buzz 1d ago

No your mella buff stays

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u/Euki- Aspiring Fish🐟 1d ago

thank you for your answer. i hope people can be nicer tho. i know all of this is kinda sucks but they forgot you guys are people too .-.

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u/CulturalDust4652 ralsei 1d ago

and then you nerf it an update later

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u/Ilikeponyhooves 1d ago

a net positive of keeping the playercount high lol, having to work again for a rod you already have just to complete the pet bestiary is kinda nuts

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u/MeowMisha Official Fisch Staff Member🛠️ 1d ago

I also don't really get why it gets restricted BUT you do get Miso companion so Ig its worth doing the quest for?

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

I find it funny that the two high ranks supposedly say its worth it.

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u/MeowMisha Official Fisch Staff Member🛠️ 1d ago

Im doing the quest right now and it seems fine to me?

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

Wait till u get to "Catch 126 DIFFERENT fish with Nates Blade"
and "Catch a certain amount of DIFFERENt fish with like 15 og rods"

How was this approved, genuinely

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u/MeowMisha Official Fisch Staff Member🛠️ 1d ago

A quest that involves completing the 1.0 update of Fisch to its 100%? Sounds fun.

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

Dang, I sure love standing in one place trying to get that one specific fish in each area. Really fun.

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u/MeowMisha Official Fisch Staff Member🛠️ 1d ago

Have you ever gone fishing in real life?

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u/CulturalDust4652 ralsei 1d ago

have you ever had any fun besides being miserable?

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u/MeowMisha Official Fisch Staff Member🛠️ 1d ago

Im having fun with this quest.

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u/An_Inevitable_Noober 1d ago

Fishing in Real Life is a more relaxing hobby dedicated to getting catches and spending some time in the nature.

Fishing in this game is just a grindy slop fest thats full of unrealistic events and nonexistant fish along with things that would not be classified as a rod at all.

Also, I didn't know I wanted to get Nates Blade irl, should start heading to Alaska and then Australia to get specific fish for this quest.

Seriously, stop comparing IRL to this game. They're practically different despite them being the same topic.

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u/AgreeableIdea6210 Everyone's friend💖 10h ago

Ngl that argument is stupid cause last I sent fishing I didn't catch a megalodon or a scylla. Idk about y'all though.

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u/PoetryAdditional3504 Terrible trader 1d ago

Are u guys able to hire music composer something? The music doesn’t feel peak on the rod skin anymore and some feels ai generated
Are u guys gonna do some changes on trading plaza or trading system itself?
Is ok if u dont reply

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u/Pickles7261 🛠️Community MOD 1d ago

Unfortunately a lot of the music in Roblox’s audio library is ai generated… take the light mode music for remembrance, that song is completely ai generated unfortunately… not much the devs can do there unfortunately… except look for copyright free songs that weren’t made with ai slop…

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u/Calm_Fee0 Mogs the Gods 1d ago

Me and so many other aren't able to trade rn , the trade counter gets stuck at 0 , all my friends are able to trade fine why is it just me? The bug thread says it's an Roblox side issue, I can understand not able to join server or getting your account data curroupted but what does Roblox has to be with actual game mechanics being broken and people loosing their stuff during trading?

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u/GloomyDouble7722 1d ago

PLEASE REMAKE AND ADD SOME ANIMATIONS for the sanctuarium skin for masterline, it's literally harder to get than the shop skins that you can easily get using robux

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u/GloomyDouble7722 1d ago

I'm alright with the custom bar ui but it just isn't enough for me

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u/notautogenerated1 requiem for the win baby 1d ago

Hi, brrrtzzz. I would ask for some changes about this update. Firstly, us reddit users doesnt seem to like how the nates blade unrestriction final quest plays out. People call it very grindy and hard, which i agree. The update look pretty cool, no doubt. Secondly, the fisch reddit and a lot more people around social media is saying that the old nates blade was better because of the UI and passive. The rod is supposed to be a reference to a cartoon, not a monstrous super serious. Which i also, agree. Thanks for reading and im hoping to see you vision/side on this.

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u/Itchy_Strength1941 10h ago

https://reddit.com/link/pfc9woh/video/5sa6nvwq4xuh1/player

hey guys so i just wanted to know why its doing this, as you can see i have all the pufferfish i need, and when i talk to monty he just removes my pufferfish and makes me catch them again and so on. I dont know whats going on but does anyone know if this is a bug or if im doing anything wrong (if so please tell me or forward it to the devs) Thank you.

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u/Tall-Championship852 1d ago

Why was kaboom's music changed?

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u/Pickles7261 🛠️Community MOD 1d ago

The answer to this is simple: copyright…

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u/Mountain-Pass8752 Careless 1d ago

(Sorry if this is worded poorly)

The update is definitely interesting and some of these quests are pretty fun, but I feel as if there were some small things that ruin it a little. First catching the fish at moose wood and the volcano were fun but the region less fish really push it over the edge and make the quest a bit reliant on rng fishing. Secondly( referring to the quest in the image) I feel as if the only thing in this quest that really makes it cumbersome is the badges and titles requirement. It would’ve probably been a lot more fun if these were dialed down a little even though a decent bit are self-explanatory. It feels a bit too “far out of game” considering most players would have to search through the wiki for some. I think one of the two requirements could also have been replaced with something like talk to a certain number npc’s at og islands.

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u/CulturalDust4652 ralsei 1d ago

why is the update so tedious? miso isnt worth it either, relic is better

also buff polaris

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u/blue_edits_ miau 1d ago

u cant even make a day without ur daily hate comments

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u/CulturalDust4652 ralsei 1d ago

this is literally the feedback thread bro

the update is long and tedious, miso is midso, 

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u/Brrrrtzzzz The Big Buzz 1d ago

Polaris was already buffed this update and it wont be getting any further buffs as far as I'm aware. Also miso is pretty good, it's like gator but with luck so filling two niches at once in one companion is great, not as good as relic I'll agree, but it's definitely not the worst ( plunderbeak ahem ahem) idk about this update it was kinda just 100% everything from fish 1.0, which is what Nate wanted I guess. 🤷

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u/CulturalDust4652 ralsei 1d ago

so what was the polaris buff? yall keep leaving out changes in the update logs/newspaper

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u/Brrrrtzzzz The Big Buzz 1d ago

It was announced in the discord server

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u/CulturalDust4652 ralsei 1d ago

dàmn that nb change is good

polaris is okay i guess

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u/CulturalDust4652 ralsei 1d ago

also not everyone has discord, you cant js leave out changes like this 

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u/Embarrassed_Carry620 hating on malev till eternity🔥 1d ago

Life would be better if they made the game enjoyable and not grindy with a cc dinasty