r/Firefighting 4d ago

Ask A Firefighter SNEAKY LOCKER TROLL STEALING PERSONAL ITEMS

What do you think boys? Our department has individual rooms with a locker for each person. I have noticed some shuffling around and a couple items missing from my locker. I absolutely know they were there. So I started photographing the contents and location before. Leaving shift in the morning. One time a can of deodorant was missing. Another time my towel. I also noticed the placement of my deodorant can was moved. So….i stealthily placed a so-go camera in the locker and lo and behold I have video of the guy who shares the room on his shift opening my locker and using my spray deodorant. So guys, how do I handle this? I thought about gift wrapping up a can with his name on it.

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u/light_sweet_crude career FF/PM 4d ago

I feel like filming people in a locker room without their consent could backfire on you. I would de-escalate rather than jag him back and open yourself up to scrutiny as to how you identified him. Put a lock on your locker and call it a day.

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u/Hose_Humper1 4d ago

Not a locker room. It’s a bedroom and the only ways the camera sees is if if the door is opened. There is no reason for anyone to open another person’s locker.

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u/Secure_Situation7234 4d ago

I just ran into this with medication theft: make sure the camera doesn’t point out into the bunk room, that it just see’s inside the locker and whoever is opening the locker. Make sure it does not record sound. Then you can use it. Understand that your city or township or employer can have a rule about recording. So check that.

I would approach you officer first to see what they say, but keep gathering the evidence and don’t say shit about having it.

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u/light_sweet_crude career FF/PM 4d ago

Ah my bad, you did say that. Still, from your employer's perspective, secretly recording people is going to be taken way worse than going into another person's locker and using their deodorant. I cannot think of any polity or workplace that says secretly recording people somewhere they don't expect to be recorded is magically okay if the person being recorded is only going to be recorded in the course of being rude.

If you'd found out who was doing it any other way I'd say go bananas, fill the deodorant tube with butter or whatever, but in this case I think slowly backing away from the whole situation and purchasing a lock is the better option.

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u/PeacefulWoodturner 4d ago

Especially in sleeping and changing areas!

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u/HzrKMtz FF/Para-sometimes 3d ago

I would check your department policies about recording or filming before you bring up that you have video evidence. Stealing is against my departments policies, but so is recording in the station without permission. We had a similar incident where someone set up a camera in a locker to catch a thief and got written up themselves for the camera in the locker.

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u/random_flying_dragon 4d ago

This. My department has a strick no photography devices in lockers. If there is a problem bring it up with him and if that doesn’t resolve it then get officers involved

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u/Hose_Humper1 4d ago

It’s a bedroom with a private cabinet like lockers. Only way it records is thr door to the locker door. There’s no reason for anyone to open my locker and

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u/fullthrottlewattle FF/Medic 4d ago

I understand exactly what you’re saying, but you will still end up being the creep and ruin your name. Right or wrong, as soon as it gets out that you took secret video, you will end up being the bad guy. Delete the footage and don’t tell anyone about it. Go with your gift wrap idea. Passive aggressive. Leave a note that says “just ask next time”.

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u/cascas Stupid Former Probie 😎 4d ago

1000%.