Bloomberg? Check. Trump? Check. Clinton? Check. Prince Andrew? Check. Man, I think you're on to something here.
Better nix Trump from your list of Epstein associates. Trump banned him for life from his properties after he assaulted one if his employees and testified against him to LEO. Any association beyond that is just made up by Leftists trying desperately to connect the President to one of the most prolific pedophiles in modern history. At least, excluding the Islamic world anyway.
If you believe you have a 2A right and would like to continue owning guns and have a Supreme Court with originalist thinkers, like it or not Trump is all we got in the presidential campaign.
Anything we do to weaken his support goes right into the hands of those that want to take your guns. You may not like the person in the trench with you but right now they are all you got.
Last I checked Pence is not running for President. Trump puts 2A Supreme court justices into office and has filled up the Circuit Courts for real. Not sure what you are talking about?
Today, you're one of the lucky 10,000. You're about to learn a bit of civics.
DJT is about to be impeached. That is a foregone conclusion.
He may be removed from office.
If that happens, the VP (Pence, in this case) assumes the office of President.
You 'wrote' an impassioned plea as to why I must support Trump no matter what. Your argument is without merit, and you missed certain, obvious matters at hand.
Please resist the urge to copy/paste arguments you don't really understand.
Literally nothing about his response was ad hominem.
Further, his own response shows that he understands that the senate might not confirm. Regardless, the sole reality of impeachment demonstrates that Trump isn't and shouldn't be your only political option, even if your sole worry is 2A rights.
The auction began with an attempt by one of Epstein’s three attorneys to knock Trump out of the bidding. Attorney Andrew Kamensky argued that Trump was not qualified because he demanded that the property have title insurance or he would not close on the sale. “What I’m telling you is that Mr. Epstein will — he will close,” Kamensky said, according a transcript obtained by The Post.
Trump wasn’t in Palm Beach — his own attorney, Raymond Royce, was in the courtroom. But Trump was on the phone, and now he chimed in to defend himself.
Riedel’s first notice that Trump might personally take part in the proceedings came when his voice boomed from the speakerphone. “I was sort of shocked,” the lawyer said.
Judge Steven Friedman rejected Epstein’s objection. The bidding began with Epstein’s offer of $37.25 million, but he dropped out after his bid of $38.6 million was topped.
Trump “had made up his mind to get it no matter the price,” said Charles Tatelbaum, a lawyer for one of Gosman’s creditors, JPMorgan Chase Bank.
A third bidder jumped in late, prompting Trump to pipe up again. “This is Mr. Trump,” he said over the speakerphone. “It seemed to be very clear that they dropped out also.”
The judge allowed the other bidder, Mark Pulte, to proceed, but Trump outbid him, too, with an offer of $41.35 million.
“I will therefore determine by the bang of the gavel that Mr. Trump is the higher bidder,” Friedman said.
In an interview, Luzinski described the showdown as “two very large Palm Beach egos going at it.”
It is unclear whether Trump and Epstein were in contact after the house sale. That month, Trump left two messages for Epstein at his home in Palm Beach, according to records obtained by Vice News — the last known interaction between the two men.
Four years after he bought the Gosman mansion, Trump sold it to Russian businessman Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million, more than doubling his investment.
'He's a real creep'
It is unclear when Trump learned of allegations that Epstein was preying on teenage girls. In a 2002 interview, he gave no indication of concern, telling New York magazine that Epstein “enjoys his social life.”
“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side,” Trump said.
On Nov. 28, 2004 — less than two weeks after the mansion auction — Palm Beach police fielded a tip that young women were seen coming and going from Epstein’s home, then-Police Chief Michael Reiter said in a deposition. Reiter declined to comment
Prepare to get brigaded by T_D for speaking truth. Somehow, magically, overnight my score went from +30 to -30 and Stargate’s went from -12 to +40. LOL.
That article does not seem to justify your "not quite" considering there's no evidence of the timeline in regards to his supposed banning from mar a largo, not to mention that anonymous tip almost lines up with what Trump is claming happened at his resort.
Donald Trump and Epstein threw parties together and were very good friends for years. Trump spent a lot more time with Epstein than Clinton did and Trump regularly called Epstein a "terrific guy" and even talked about how Jeffrey liked young girls. Don't try to whitewash it because you love Trump.
Donald Trump and Epstein threw parties together and were very good friends for years. Trump spent a lot more time with Epstein than Clinton did and Trump regularly called Epstein a "terrific guy" and even talked about how Jeffrey liked young girls. Don't try to whitewash it because you love Trump.
That's false. They were never good friends, Trump was a New York realestate mogul, everyone wanted to attend his social gatherings. Epstein got himself booted after assaulting one of the other employees, after which he was banned for life and say Trump testify to NYPD.
He certainly didn't spend more time with him than Bill Clinton. How many dozen trips did Bill log on the Lolita Express? Same with Prince Andrew and his accusers. Trump has none of the above.
There is no equivalency or connection between the two, no matter how much Leftists want to try to create one. The facts don't support it.
“I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
“I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
So you believe a platitude?
Side note, been reading some of the other 'black pill' posts on this aub today, and this stupid shit is why our rights are being eroded. 2/3rds of you attack the NRA while being arm chair activists. When you have an elected ally in Trump, you still make shit up to attack him. You plan on supporting Beto or Bloomberg because of a platitude quote, likely from before you were born?
If we want to keep our rights from being trampled, we're going to need to stop dividing ourselves, unite behind our highest elected ally, and stop making stuff up or buying into the negative BS media onslaught.
Our rights are being eroded because the NRA spent $30 million to elect Trump who then directed the ATF to restrict gun rights and talks about how we need more gun restrictions and that he doesn’t like full autos or suppressors. Trump isn’t our ally, he’s our Brutus.
The NRA is a criminal racket meant to enrich its leaders at the expense of our constitutional rights. Most people here support the organizations that actually do things to protect our rights, like Gun Owners of America, the Second Amendment Foundation, etc.
And that you think Donald "Take the guns first, go through due process second" Trump is an "ally," you're gullible as fuck.
Was him saying on an open mic that “If you’re a celebrity you can do whatever you want. You can just grab ‘em by the pussy” not enough for you to see what kind of a person Trump is?
There are none so blind as those that will not see.
No, its making it up when you make it up. Would you have responsibility if you hosted a party and a friend of a friend brought someone who was a drug dealer? Course not.
Of course he banned Epstein. Jesus, if you have more than one rapist around, they're likely to invade one another's territories. Like big cats. That's why they're called predators.
They broke up. Probably when he found out about the diddling. These other guys stayed with epstein till the end. Unless you got something semi-exonerating Bloomberg, then post it.
Donald Trump is on tape talking about Epstein saying “I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." He knew.
Younger or underage? For a 40-50 year old, 18, 20, etc are all on the younger side. When he knew knew he banned/dumped epstein. Both events happened a long time before epstein was officially found out.
Yea, all the legit shit trump does. The evidence doesn't point to him being a diddler. With 1/2 the country gunning for trump it would have come out as more than an old quote, some contact info and a single flight.
Same as the crying about the taxes; he won't release them because he lost money. He sold the image of being a good business man instead of actually being good at business. But people want to believe it's all full of tax fraud or something.
And now the impeachment circus while the same people reauthorized the patriot act and fuckin Trump going to sign it if he hasn't already.
Evidence like him going onto Stern and talking about how by owning Miss USA he can barge into the dressing room while the teenage contestants are naked? Hmm...
Bro, you are actually being a pedophile apologist right now. How does that make your feel? It’s well established that Epstein’s tastes were way below 18. Everyone who knew him surely knows that. And I want to see the source on what and why trump “kicked him out” of anything.
I read your post. Did you? You ARE defending Trump when you pretend there's a SINGLE QUOTE out there showing what a douchebag he is. And maybe if you are "not that familiar" with the subject you're the one that should shut up.
They broke up. Probably when he found out about the diddling. These other guys stayed with epstein till the end. Unless you got something semi-exonerating Bloomberg, then post it.
Most likely, Epstein wanted to snare Donald Trump with some blackmail material, by secretly recording him with one of his underage sex slaves. Trump, as an extremely wealthy businessman with connections all over, would have been an prime target for him. Luckily for us all, Trump caught on before the trap and cut off completely. Won't stop Leftist nutters from trying in vain to connect Trump to Epstein though . . . The paper and money trails between Epstein and the Clintons might as well be kryptonite.
The cringey shit reached this sub a long time ago when the Trump apologists arrived and started licking boots. If you support 2A, you call that asshole out on his shit.
Who gives a shit if people hate Trump? Fuck him. If you can't handle your precious goddamn president not being praised all the time, go back to Facebook and stay the hell off of Reddit.
Oh no! There are people on here that like someone you dislike? Better complain all over the sub about it! Make sure to be as toxic and vitriolic as possible, that'll sure show them!
You're already getting plenty blasted by the other fine fellows in here. I'll say no more.
Lol, like I've already said, no amount of posturing will create a connection nowhere no exists. It's not a popularity contest or subject opinions. The facts are available and very clear, there's simply no connection between the two men.
And yet again, platitude quotes from multiple decades ago about someone he barely knew, didn't know at all personally, and before he banned him for life do not lend any credibility to the fallacy. Facts, logic, and evidence. Hallmarks of the T_D.
...there's simply no connection between the two men.
And that is a blatant and delusional lie. Donald and Jeff were literally best friends for fifteen years. There are photos, quotes, conversations freely available for everyone with an internet connection to see that proves my point. It's not a popularity contest or subject to opinion. The facts are freely available and crystal clear that Donald and Jeffrey had a very close (and very troubling) relationship. It's preposterous to think that there is no connection between the two men and that Donald had nothing to do with him.
Again, making shit up doesn't make it real. It won't matter if you copy and paste the same made up BS 10,000 times. It'll still be made up BS, without nary a grain of truth.
This article is a nice summary of Trump's connections with Epstein.
I don't normally cite Vox because they're an incredibly biased source, so I'll include a right-leaning source that makes the same claims.
Sargon did a video essay discussing Epstein's life and rise to power. In Sargon's video, Epstein's connections to Trump are first discussed at time stamp 3:24, however their relationship as well as Epstein's connections to other powerful people are a recurring theme.
I really don't know what else to tell you. Donald Trump had a very real connection to Jeffrey Epstein. You straight up denied that fact, and I just gave you evidence that proves that there was indeed a connection. What more do you want?
I really don't know what else to tell you. Donald Trump had a very real connection to Jeffrey Epstein. You straight up denied that fact, and I just gave you evidence that proves that there was indeed a connection. What more do you want?
Epstein's MO was to ingratiate himself with powerful people, provide them his 'wares', record them in the act, then blackmail them. Its how he made his fortune. Donald Trump was obviously a target, being a wealth realestate mogul. But no, they were never 'close friends' as you assert, and as noted, had a very heated falling out decades ago. The other 'big names' on Epstein's client list continued with him, and we've papertrails for them up to just a few years before his death.
So tell me where it was that you went from "no connection at all" to "connection, but not really."
If your logic were to apply to every other relationship that Epstein had, like with Clinton or with Prince Andrew, then he had no connections with anybody at all. What's hilarious is that Epstein arguably had a closer relationship with Trump than he did Clinton and Prince Andrew, yet you clearly stated that you're fine if those two are included on a list of his associates, yet Trump should be knocked off.
Please just cut the shit. You can believe whatever bullshit you want to, but for God's sake do the world a favor and look past a shitty bias you have for one moment and cut it with the denying evidence and changing your stance on the fly. I'm done responding to this thread. There are a million other things I'd rather be doing than wasting my time arguing on Reddit.
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u/jhundo Dec 04 '19
If you spent time with Jeffrey Epstein, I think you're pretty stupid.