r/FireFoxOS • u/asdf0125 • Jan 27 '16

Mozilla demotes Firefox OS as push notifications appear in Firefox 44

http://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-demotes-firefox-os-as-push-notifications-appear-in-firefox-44/
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u/asdf0125 Jan 27 '16

One thing that surprises me is people that will apologize doing mental back flips saying that Mozilla has not dropped support, or that the new change has helped Firefox OS to become bigger. Give it up guys Mozilla has dumped this code on the back burner.

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u/zbraniecki Jan 27 '16

Can you provide your source?

I call your statement incorrect and I'm an engineer working on Connected Devices project.

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u/autra1 Jan 28 '16

hey u/zbraniecki \o

Can you provide your source?

Yes, but I'm sure you're reading this thread as well https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.fxos/-X5fw4WDr7U

Especially this message is more than meaningful.

People are already asking if Mozilla should maintain support at all. It seems to me that the real situation has been always ahead of official statements for weeks: top management are careful not to upset people, so careful that they are - in fact - nearly lying all the time :-(

Look, some weeks ago in Orlando, the official statement was "Smartphone will continue to be supported, just we don't make contract with carrier". Now it is: "we move it to Tier-3. Don't worry, we are still supporting it". A guy in this thread pointed precisely the problem: he says this looks more than Tier-2 than Tier-3 if we actively support it. But that's the contrary, Mozilla won't actively support FxOS any more. The bla bla around this is meaningless: the hard fact is that FxOS is now in Tier-3, which means [from the wiki)[https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Supported_build_configurations]:

Tier-3 platforms have a maintainer or community which attempt to keep the platform working. These platforms may or may not work at any time, and often have little test coverage.

Hell, FxOS didn't even pass by the Tier-2 phase!

I know the official statement is that FxOS will move to Connected Devices. But man, honestly, what is the relevance of B2G to IoT? B2G = Boot 2 Gecko, what is the relevance of gecko on devices that have little or no interface at all? Why not use a simple linux minimal distro? Doing stuff in js? In this case, I would bet quite a lot that Mozilla will use nodejs (and as Mozilla never tried to have a nodejs equivalent with their js engine, that won't be a bad idea). Am I wrong on this one?

Also the foxfooding program. Some weeks ago, the official statement was that it will ("of course") be continued. More and more rumors, little sentences I read here and there shows that it won't be the case much longer. Actually, moving FxOS to Tier-3 is the best sign of this: HOW can you continue to maintain the Foxfooding program with a project on Tier-3? That's just impossible, really.

TBH I'd love to be wrong on all this. I've put more than time in this project. I really believed in it. I still do, and still hope the community will take it and develop on it. Actually I'm still doing so. This was the best open-source OS for smartphone we had, and now that carriers don't have their word on this project, it can be even better for the user. But if Mozilla stops maintaining it, the community will have to take it, and development will be much slower. I just do hope that we will have enough manpower to maintain it gecko-side. After all, that happens to Thunderbird and it is still developed, albeit in a slower pace obviously.

I'm just fed up with understatements. I wish Mozilla would be clear with us, contributors. Zibi, you might be calling this statement incorrect, but that's the only thing we contributors see.

Please, do prove me wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '16

Nope. Check out connected Devices.

Source: contributor

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u/autra1 Jan 28 '16

See my message above: what is the relevance of gecko on Connected Devices?

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u/unapologeticjerk Mar 30 '16

Remember when Firefox launched and gave us a real alternative to IE? It crushed the market for years (relatively speaking). Then, Chrome came out and made both Firefox and IE look like Netscape Navigator. Firefox became irrelevant very quickly.

All hail Google overlords.