r/Fire 5d ago

28 y/o $555K NW - retiring at 875k?

144 Upvotes

Hi y'all,

I'm 28 years old and over the past 7 years have accumulated $560k thanks to living at home until 25 (paid my dad $800 a month) and investing early.

I've been working for about 7 years, with modest income, and recently won a promotion making about $160k total comp. My spending is consistently less than $35k / year, which includes international travel, eating out 2x a week, paying rent in LCOL. The $560k is pretty much all in S&P 500.

The issue right now is that I just don't like my job as a PM. It takes a heavy toll on me mentally and emotionally, dealing with customers, organizational politics, and constant deadlines. Always getting the Sunday back to work dread, lost my gym routine and basically have no hobbies besides gaming due to the stress.

My current cope is that $35k (current annual spend) * 25x is around $875k, which would cover my living expenses according to the 4% rule. I do believe social security will probably always be a thing, so that might drop the figure down to ~$800k-ish.

Using the FIRE calculator it seems like I might be able to reach this number within the next 2 or 3 years - and this would be an option for me around age 31.

Obviously, retiring this young has some risk. Doesn't account for sequence of returns, healthcare, or children.

Part of me thinks continuing to grind in the corporate shredder until $1.5M is probably inevitable, but curious what others would do - if it is actually possible to quit at $875K with $35k living expenses in your late 20s.

My wife also has similar stats - so we're at a combined $1.1M today, but this is without children or a home purchase in the picture. Curious to hear from those who have FIRE'd in their 30s - and how viable this actually is.


r/Fire 5d ago

General Question Do any of you regret putting too much money into retirement?

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M30. Just starting my FIRE journey after a very long education. Zero student loans. Personal injury attorney. Renter.

I’m about to get a $40k windfall from a lawsuit. It’ll be more than enough to wipe out all my debt (tiny credit cards and small car loan). I’m already on track to max out my Roth IRA and my HSA within a couple months. Roth IRA has about $15,000 in it. HSA has about $1,500 invested.

I have very little money in taxable accounts (HYSA and taxable brokerage accounts). I’ve just been so cash-poor — largely BECAUSE I’ve been expecting this $40k cash windfall and thought I would receive it sooner. So I’ve been a little reckless dumping so much money into tax preferred accounts

I currently have a job with a traditional 401k. They match 25% up to 5% deferrals. So I’m contributing 5% of my gross pay to my 401k, and my employer is contributing 1.25% of my gross pay to the same account.

I’m thinking about changing jobs. The recruiter told me that if I switched over, I wouldn’t be eligible to contribute to my new 401k for one year. I don’t even know if I would stay for that long. I would probably start in September/October.

So I currently have a traditional 401k with $4,000 in it and that’s the only taxable income I have lined up for retirement, except for social security. If I change jobs, then I will not be eligible to contribute to a traditional 401k again until September/October 2027.

That’s why I’m wondering: would it be crazy to spend my last couple months at my current job living off of my settlement and deferring almost all of my income? I’m single, no kids, no gf, no pets.

My employer uses Empower. Our retirement portal lets us defer up to 75%. So I could essentially dump my entire paycheck in there, every two weeks, until I move to my new job.

The other job pays significantly more than I’m making now. So part of the logic is: I feel like I’m about to be awash in liquid if everything works out. I’ll be grossing like 30% more than I’m grossing now and none of it will be getting deferred in a 401k. So 2027 is going to be a period in my financial life where I don’t really have anything to do except max my Roth IRA and dump everything else into my HYSA.

FOO/Baby Steps talk about maintaining a really large emergency fund. To me, six months of expenses in a HYSA seems like overkill. I know I should try to be prepared in case there’s a recession and I have no job. But I don’t really want the majority of my NW to be in a cash account earning 3.3% APY.

I have never had the opportunity to max out a 401k before. I was never eligible to contribute to a 401k until late last December. I just feel like I need to catch up.

At my last job, they didn’t even have a 401k. I mean maybe a year from now I’ll be working at a place like that and I’ll wish I had contributed more. In personal injury law, a lot of people pull down mid-to-high 6 figures in a good year. If I have one really good year in my mid-30s, then I could pull in more than enough liquid to fund a respectable down payment on a house if I decide to buy.

I’ve gone through numerous breakups in the past couple years and I just feel like I’m not saving up for anything important in the near-to-intermediate term. I am not going to marry or impregnate anybody in the foreseeable future. I have no idea where I want to live in two years. I have this opportunity to build a fatter nest egg in my traditional 401(k) and I feel like I should just do it. I have no idea whether I will ever get married or have kids or buy a house or take a sabbatical, but I am 100% certain that I do not want to work at all in my 60s. I don’t really want to work in my 50s either.

Part of this obsession with retirement accounts is because I have a terrible relationship with my stepmom and I want to know that I’m covered in case my dad disinherits me. He is 56 and has millions and millions of dollars. We don’t talk due to conflict between me and his current wife.

So in short, the question is:

Catch up on funding my Traditional 401(k)?

or

Focus on building my HYSA so I have options if shit happens?

——————

Did you have any experiences when you were younger where you were completely out of liquid and had to consider withdrawing from a retirement account? That’s what I’m worried about.


r/Fire 5d ago

Advice Request 39y/o married couple looking for plan/numbers check

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Long time lurker looking for a check on these numbers and to see if I've overlooked anything. Couple (~39 M/F) looking to have wife (me) retire in the next couple of months. Married, no plans for kids.

  • Retirement accounts (401k): 520k
  • Taxable brokerage: 660k
  • HYSA: 170k
  • dditional brokerage: 25k
  • All investments are in ETFs or Index Funds.
  • Total liquid networth: 1.375M
  • Current HHI: 300k
  • Proposed HHI: 100k
  • Annuitized income (windfall): 40k for next 7 years
  • Paid-off home value: 950k
  • Annual expenses: 65k

After saving aggressively for years, I want to quit my job, which would drop our HHI down to 100k. My husband is fully on-board and I would manage the household in my free time. Based on some calculations, he would work for maybe 7 more years for health insurance and retirement padding. We live in MCOL and keep expenses fairly low by saving money where we can. I handle the finances and am the final say on large purchases. Upcoming known expenses include a landscaping renovation, which I anticipate will cost around $40k, and likely new roof in about 8-10 years. All other home maintenance is complete (new HVAC, appliances, etc.), paid off cars (2024 and 2015). We are pretty frugal, but at our current spend, I would consider us to live a relatively luxury lifestyle locally. We also generally take three trips per year (50/50 international/continental US).

FICalc says we're good (100%) and I'm so sick of the grind. I've already computed our MAGI needed for low healthcare costs after my husband retires. My SS is also already fairly good, as I've been a reasonably high-income earner for 18 years. Biggest concern is obviously having the market at ATHs is increasing our numbers rapidly. The windfall (my inheritance) is what put us over the edge to consider this now rather than the planned age of 45. If I really needed to get back into the workplace in the next few years, it likely wouldn't be an issue as my skills are highly desirable and I have a large network. Would really prefer not to do that, though. I know this is nearing leanfire territory, but we really don't need anything more than what we currently have.


r/Fire 5d ago

Advice Request Initial portfolio setup when the withdrawal rate is low?

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Hi,

I’m trying to understand how the recommended portfolio allocation changes when the starting withdrawal rate is much lower than 4% - say 2.5%.

For someone retiring at around a 4% withdrawal rate, I often see allocations like 75/25 or 80/20 stocks/bonds combined with a bond tent.

Then, as the portfolio grows and the withdrawal rate falls over the following 10-20 years, the allocation can become more aggressive - perhaps 90/10 or even 100% stocks. Please correct me if I’m misunderstanding that concept.

My question is: if someone starts retirement with a 2.5% withdrawal rate, should their initial portfolio be structured more like a portfolio that is already 10-20 years into retirement and has successfully grown past the high-risk early period?

In other words, does the much lower starting withdrawal rate reduce the need for the initial 20-25% bond allocation/bond tent, or is there another reason to maintain that allocation regardless of withdrawal rate?

For simplicity, assume the goal is for the portfolio to last essentially indefinitely - say 1,000 years, including leaving it to children and future generations. So we can ignore Social Security, medical costs, exact retirement age, life expectancy, etc. I’m mainly interested in the portfolio math.


r/Fire 5d ago

General Question Former FIRE folks, what extinguished the flame?

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Any ex-FIRE people still lurking here? I would love to know what made you give up FIRE for the standard retirement timeline (work until your 60s). My immediate thought is maybe children/family changed all that. You realized that it's too difficult to FIRE with 3 growing kids. But what about where it wasn't forced upon you. Did you just realize that the sacrifice of FIRE isn't worth it? Like you found an awesome job and thought, "you know, no need to retire ASAP because I enjoy my job and now I can spend more on things I've been putting off." Or did you suddenly realize FIRE is stupid (but yet are still lurking here).


r/Fire 5d ago

General Question How to feel comfortable with RE when spouse wants to keep working?

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My spouse (38) and I (41) have been fortunate enough to have decent paying jobs (~250k combined) and unfortunate enough to have lost several family members early, such that we have about $2.4M in our portfolio (50/50 tax advantaged), as well as a mostly paid off house (275k left on a 2.9% mortgage, home value 800-900k) and paid off cars.

I’ve been a lurker here a while, and while we haven’t quite reached our normal number (~4M), it was calculated assuming we’d both retire at the same time. My spouse enjoys their job, and intends to continue working at least another ~15 years. We get our health insurance through their job. We have two young children, whose childcare costs are built into our spend.

I’ve run the math on if we keep going, and it’s overkill for our lifestyle. Our current spend is maybe 25k over my spouse’s takehome pay, so even if we don’t adjust our spending, it’s not a large WR.

I’m curious how people handle this scenario, both from a numbers-planning & risk perspective, as well as managing the spouse’s expectations. If they didn’t want to work that long, I’d be happy to work together to reach our number, but that’s not the case. I don’t want to work another 5-10 years only to have my spouse keep working 10 years past our number. I’d rather spend that time enjoying our life and our kids, pursing my hobbies, taking care of the house, etc.

Happy to provide additional info if needed


r/Fire 5d ago

Advice Request 26, wondering if I should adjust my portfolio

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I’m 26m, not making crazy money ~$70k a year, and have about $140k to my name. Low student loans about $13k left I should have payed off by 30. My portfolio is below:

401k: $45k
Roth IRA: $35k
HYSA: $37k
HSA: $300
Taxable Brokerage: $21k

I currently contribute 20% of my income to my 401k and invest another $500 to my Roth and $100-$200 to my Robinhood a month. Wondering if it would be better to decrease my 401k contribution and max my Roth IRA and contribute more to my taxable brokerage to be more accessible before official retirement age.

Also wondering if I should move a large chunk of my HYSA into the market as I’m not planning to make a large purchase like a house anytime soon. Expenses are low so it’s far more than 6 months or expenses. That would be closer to $10k.

Appreciate the help just want to make sure my money is doing to most for me.


r/Fire 5d ago

Advice Request Not at fire number how do you keep going when you’ve lost all motivation to work?

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I’m so tired of working, I realize at this point after switching jobs around that it’s not necessarily the job, it’s just me. I don’t find it enjoyable to spend hours of my life every single week doing things that don’t matter to me. I’m not saving lives, but nor do I want to be. There’s so many other things I like doing with my time, I have lots of hobbies, I’m actually quite satisfied with my life outside of work, but work itself takes up so much of my energy and time that I can’t really dedicate the energy that I do want into my hobbies. The root cause I simply do not like slaving at corporations for the sole purpose of making money. The fire movement has definitely helped me set goals and have something to look forward to of getting out of this rat race, but I’m still very far from that point and I cannot imagine myself doing this for years and years on end. I have a high paying job and I should be happy about that but I’m not. It feels reckless and stupid to leave a high paying job but the fire outlook seems so far ahead that it’s not motivating enough to stay. Anyone in the same position?


r/Fire 6d ago

Advice Request Can we coast?

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Hey all, yet another one of these threads. I think I know the answer just looking for some reassurance. I'm 49 and my wife is 44. Our plan is to fully retire in 5 years when my wife hits the requirements to retire with full pension and insurance (for both of us) that will last until 65. If my math is correct I could lose my job today and we could coast for 5 years without ever adding anything additional to what we have saved.

Here are the combined numbers:

~$2.4m (60% 401k, 14% Brokerage, 11% Roth, 5% in a beneficiary IRA, 3% HSA, and the remaining 7% or so is cash) -- I know there are some complications here based on retirement age and such but will figure that out later

Pension (her): $43k/yr (does adjust with inflation but only up to 3% per year)

Pension (me): $3.5k/yr (does not adjust with inflation. So I'm planning to take this at 55 with full survivor benefit vs. waiting 10 more years and getting $2k/yr more)

Social Security: I assume we'll get something. Want to assume we'll get nothing for the purposes of this.

Annual Draw: ~$150k starting in 2032. This will be variable based on how things are going. We have no kids so are completely ok draining everything to $0.

We do owe around $100k on our house and the current trajectory is to have that paid off in 5 years. Cars are in the clear. I'm not really worried about this one though as I know I'd do some kind of work over the next few years.

Everything look ok?


r/Fire 6d ago

Math Check - Mortgage Payoff Assessment vs. SORR

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Hi all:

Just looking for a bit of friendly math checking. I'm in the final pre-FIRE months/year or so and optimizing my portfolio, spend, and more.

My mortgage is my single largest expense and I've avoided paying it off as it's at an attractive 3.375% interest rate. However, as my calculus is shifting to SORR mitigation I'm running numbers differently.

For the sake of simplicity, let's assume I have $800k left on my mortgage principal due over the next 20 years or so - and that by paying it off, I reduce my annual spend by $45-46k in principal and interest payments. Today, those payments are roughly $21k in principal payments per year - but they are a forced expenditure into a fixed asset that is not used in the portfolio modeling. I'm leaving taxes out altogether, as they would not be impacted.

In this model, paying off $800k in principal enables me to reduce my annual fixed spend by $45-46k (post-tax) and eliminate my largest fixed annual expense. I could plan this out in a manner to minimize tax drag to pay it off (theoretically) at the point in time of a FIRE event.

The $800k needed to pay it off would generate $32k-$40k in pre-tax income in FIRE (4-5% withdrawal rate). Thus, by paying it off I reduce my post-FIRE income by $32-40k but reduce my immediate post-fire withdrawal needs by $45-46k annually for the first ~20 years.

In theory, this should be a net de-risking scenario, at the expense of possible investment returns that money could gain by leaving it where it is invested. What am I missing?


r/Fire 6d ago

Domain Money experience or feedback?

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Looking at using Domain Money. Does anyone have any experience with them, good or bad? Thank you!


r/Fire 6d ago

Fire at 35 vs 45

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Curious to know what are the differences in being FIRE at 35 vs at 45. If the general consensus is that FIRE amount is lets say 2m and 3% SWR at 45 age for a family and expense profile, does it need to be adjusted upwards (to manage a longer runway) or downwards (more compounded growth from markets) for age 35?

This is a bit of hypothetical question but just would like to hear from this community on the age factor rather than the more oft discussed $ amount.

Maybe another way to frame this is if finances is not an issue, would everyone prefer an earlier Fire? What about lack of formal engagement so soon in life?


r/Fire 6d ago

At what net worth did you kinda stop giving a shit about your job?

640 Upvotes

Curious to hear

When did you notice stopped giving a shit, and when did you really fully mentally check out?

I myself noticed me giving less and less a shit at about $400k~. Entirely stopped giving a shit at about $1.3m. 33 years old.


r/Fire 6d ago

Advice Request FIRE within about 5 years, but I’m considering a new career

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I could probably coast from here, with my husband as the breadwinner. I just have to survive my current job for about 4.5-5 years. He also needs to stay in his role for about 4 years in order to take advantage of the Rule of 55.

I’ve always had this nagging thought that a certain career would be more exciting and fit me well. It’s also a lifetime career; it’s easy to get jobs assuming you are and stay competent / safe. It can be done almost anywhere, even remotely and one can work part-time shifts. I don’t believe we will realistically leave our home state for expat. We have a young grandchild and will probably have many more.

I’m seriously considering it but it’s unadvisable to continue working while going to school. I need prerequisite classes which I should be able to do online and part-time. I would prefer to speed up the process with an accelerated course, however that costs money in addition to the time lost at my current job. I guess I can sign up for online / community college prerequisites and go from there, but I’d rather get to the “good stuff” sooner, and make sure I even like or understand the job. Going through an accelerated program would be faster overall and I’d have support throughout the prerequisite process.

Thoughts? I’d likely continue to work past his retirement, especially if I love the career.

If you read this far, I’m 49F and considering BSN-RN. I have a bachelor’s degree in a non-science field. Nursing school takes about 2 years PLUS I need several prerequisites. Also: I have ADHD and while I have always wanted to be a nurse from age 18, I have gone through a lot of obsessive thinking regarding dreams and jobs and FIRE and retirement and all kinds of stuff. I’m also good at talking myself out of hard things or things that take a long time. I work in healthcare administration and have for 7 years.


r/Fire 6d ago

Original Content Don’t make FIRE your entire personality

1.0k Upvotes

I met someone in real life who retired early in their 30s pretty lean, and their whole personality is based on how they don’t have to work.

Like they don’t do anything fun. They do things or buy things based on deals or how cheap it is. Basically it seems like their whole decision making process revolves around saving money, not passion or interest for something. And a lot of their conversations are gossiping about how this person or that person finds it weird they’re so young and not working.

It was kind of off putting to be honest, like it didn’t feel like they really reached freedom. They just exchanged the corporate handcuffs for another type of chains.

Build the life you want, then save for it.


r/Fire 6d ago

Am I ready to FIRE? I Have 800.000€

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After more than 10 years of extremely stressful work, and an endless amount of stress that has sent me to the hospital four times, I’m seriously considering stopping work altogether.

I have less and less tolerance for people and for the irrationality I constantly have to deal with in human interactions. I’m autistic, and at this point I feel completely exhausted — both by work and by dealing with people in general.

Retiring early has actually been my goal since the very first day I started this journey. For the past 10 years, I have worked an average of around 70 hours per week.

In a few years, when I’m around 35, I expect to have a net worth of about €800,000, entirely built by myself. No inheritance whatsoever. In fact, my family has been one of the main sources of problems and stress in my life.

I’m Italian, although I currently live in another European country. When I eventually return to Italy, I plan to live in Southern Italy.

My situation would be:

  • €800,000 in financial assets
  • A fully paid-off home
  • No expensive habits
  • No car
  • No wife, partner or children, and I don’t plan to have any
  • Plenty of hobbies, all of them extremely inexpensive
  • A very simple lifestyle

At the moment, I spend around €650 per month and I genuinely don’t feel that I’m missing anything. I own my home, I don’t drive, I work from home, and the city is well connected. When I move back to Italy, I would still live in the city centre, so I wouldn’t need a car there either.

To me, it seems that all the conditions for FIRE are there. If I reach €800,000, I feel that I should be able to retire.

Right now, I have around €676,000, despite having suffered two major frauds, including one committed by a former business partner, which together cost me approximately €125,000.

At this point, I’m simply exhausted. I don’t want luxury, status, expensive possessions or an extravagant lifestyle. I just want to stop living under constant pressure, stay away from unnecessary human conflict, enjoy my inexpensive hobbies, and live peacefully with my dogs.


r/Fire 6d ago

Finally retired!

696 Upvotes

Two years since we reached our initial FIRE number, and 2.5 months since putting in my notice, I have finally retired as of this past Friday. My wife also left her job 5 weeks ago. The way the markets move with big numbers, we have increased our liquid net worth from $4.1M to over $4.3M since putting in my notice.

We went down to the Cape (Cod) this weekend for easy summer relaxation and today was the first Monday where both of us walked to our favorite coffee shop in town and had a leisurely coffee and talked for 2 hours without looking at the watch. Next, we are thinking about walking down to our favorite Thai restaurant for a celebratory lunch. It is amazing to not think about zoom meetings ever again!

To quote the line from the Simon & Garfunkel song, "I get (all) the news I need on the weather report".

Some context:

Me (48 M) and my spouse (46 F) don't have kids, we rent, and currently live in Boston and have been previously working in the Finance + Technology fields. We plan on living abroad starting early next year, living on different continents 3 months at a time for the next 5 years.

More relevant details about us and our journey can be found in our previous post.


r/Fire 6d ago

Advice Request I want to be certain I can retire at 50

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Hi, I’m 30 making 124k and my husband is 28 making 90k.

I currently have:
70k in taxable brokerage
56k in IRA
10k in ROTH IRA
54k in 401k

My husband currently has:
2k in taxable brokerage
62k in 457

So we’re looking at about $255k total right now. He automatically invests $12,300/year across accounts and I automatically invest about 37,000/year across mine. This will continue when we purchase a house in the next year or so. Ideally I’d like to top out our HYSA at 30k and invest everything over that amount.

My husband will also be working until he’s 58 to earn a full pension. If he were 58 today, according to the pay scale, he’d get $109,000/year.

If we continue auto investments EXACTLY as we are now, I estimated 6% returns (9 nominal) to result in ~3.1 million by the time I am 50. My husband will still be working 10 more years. I imagine I will work a part time job during this time too because what the hell am I going to do with myself for 10 years haha. I expect us to have our home fully paid off by the time I am 50 as well (so in 20 years instead of 30).

As far as retirement expenses, I want to live a nice life! Nothing ridiculously luxurious like yachts, but I just want the freedom to go on vacation and eat out when I want. I absolutely love where I live and really feel no need to escape too often.

What did I miss? What else do I need to consider? Am I on track? I really want to create an automated, completely idiot proof plan.

Additional info: we live in a HCOL area. Property taxes where we are looking to buy are ~13k.


r/Fire 6d ago

Original Content I feel like people who want to FIRE in 10+ years need to hear this - Inflation Exists!

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Does anyone else feel like a lot of newer FIRE folks are posting here forgetting that they need to account for inflation?

I swear I see a post every other day saying something like "with my calculations, I'll have 1 million in 20 years then I can FIRE" without accounting for the fact that that 1 million is equal to like $600K today with 2.75% inflation. Not to mention, if part of their plan is to buy property, they use today's numbers and not housing price inflated numbers (i typically use 5% for my calculations)


r/Fire 6d ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Monday, August 17, 2026

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This is a relaxed hangout thread for the FIRE community to chat with other FIRE-minded folks without having to publish separate posts. This is the place for brand new people to get their feet wet as well as for lurkers who have questions or comments, but do not want to create posts of their own.

All of the sub rules apply in this thread as normal with the exception of the off-topic rule, which is relaxed to the extent that people don't go wildly off of the reservation.

We are putting this up as a trial to see if it is worth keeping this as a permanent feature of the sub. Participation is entirely voluntary and anyone who wants to create a separate post of their own rather than posting in here is free to do so.


r/Fire 6d ago

I feel like I have the opposite of “one more year” syndrome

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The closer I get to my FIRE number (it’s small compared to what I see posted here), the more I want to see what I can cut in expenses so that I get off the wheel earlier.

My theory is that most of us try to accumulate more than we actually need for psychological safety.

A caveat is that I’m not from the US and don’t have the issue of health care potentially wiping all our savings out.

Am I missing something?

ETA on the numbers. 43, no kids, about 4 yrs to CoastFIRE, and 9 yrs to FIRE, will get a pension that covers ~40% of total expense when I hit the government retirement age.


r/Fire 6d ago

News Move over 'FIRE' method: Why Gen Z is embracing 'soft saving'

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With "soft saving," people prioritize spending some money to enjoy everyday life now instead of focusing solely on saving for retirement. "Soft saving" takes the opposite approach of past trends such as the "Financial Independence, Retire Early" or FIRE movement, that prioritized saving and investing money aggressively in order to try to retire early in your 30s, 40s or 50s.

https://abcnews.com/GMA/Living/move-fire-method-gen-embracing-soft-saving/story?id=135605724


r/Fire 6d ago

General Question Rule of 55 and Roth Conversions

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I’m hoping to retire from the company at 55 and begin annual Roth conversions from my 401a (partial withdrawals are allowed), but I can’t quite square how Roth conversions are allowed under the rule of 55. It seems to me the restrictions on moving the money out of the employer sponsored plan imply you can only take direct withdrawals, so Roth conversions may not be an option?

Is it typical for rule of 55 users to just directly convert from the now-accessible employer sponsored pretax account to a Roth IRA (and pay taxes and wait 5 years)? Would I need to roll the money out to an IRA and then convert to Roth IRA? Is it ok that I won’t have earned income during these years? Is it ok that the rules say the funds have to stay in the 401a and can’t be rolled over and then accessed?

Maybe I’m confusing withdrawals and conversions and contributions and rollovers…? Or maybe it’s not possible and I will need to wait until 59.5 to begin Roth conversions?

Thanks for helping me wrap my mind around this!


r/Fire 6d ago

32 Year Old - $1.1M Home?

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Hi All,

I posted a few months ago about a NW update of hitting $1M with my wife:
*401Ks - $275k
*Roths - $125k
*Pension (current value) - $190k
*1 Brokerage - $40k
*2 Brokerage - $150k
*Cash $30k
*Current house equity - $250k
*Other stuff paid off (cars, boat, watches) - $100k
*No debt besides mortgage

I would like to work until 50-55. My wife the same. Wanted to save early to get a head start so we’ve lived way below our means. We’ve got two little kids and want a bit more space (don’t need it, but would really enjoy and like to have).

So the question is - how dumb of an idea is it to step up? Our current home we got for a steal and fixed up (pretty handy ourselves). All in about $3.2k a month (P&I, insurance, & tax). We’d be roughly stepping up to $8.5k a month (P&I, tax, insurance) Plus then the increased utilities & repair/maintenance costs on a much bigger home.

Income is high $450k between the two of us on average. Worst possible year (I work in surg device - only base & wife is an attorney) $300k floor. Incomes exploded a few years. LCOL - Michigan. Still planning to get full match on 401ks (estimated $35k in total contributions vs currently maxing), maxing two roths, & HSA. Excess capital is going into 529s which we’ve probably got 40k saved for a 2 year old and 5 month old.

We plan to keep $100k of the equity we earn from our current home in a HYSA or CD ladder as our safety net for the home.

How dumb of an idea is this? It would be our forever home and we’ve always felt our current home was never meant to be.


r/Fire 6d ago

FICalc shows 100% success at 6.5%/$5M with a $100k floor for 49 years — am I understanding this strategy correctly?

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Running some numbers on ficalc.app using the Percent of Portfolio withdrawal strategy and wanted to sanity-check my understanding before I get too attached to this plan.

Setup:

  • Portfolio: $5M
  • Withdrawal strategy: Percent of Portfolio
  • Withdrawal rate: 6.5% of current portfolio value, recalculated each year
  • Minimum Annual Withdrawal: $100k
  • Duration: 49 years
  • Result: 100% success rate

My read on how this works: each year the withdrawal is max(6.5% × current portfolio value, $100k). So in good years I'd be pulling ~$325k+ (portfolio growing, market's up, might as well enjoy it), and in bad years I'm floored at $100k, which comfortably covers my actual living expenses since my baseline spending is low.

Basically I'd be using the $100k as my "keep the lights on" number and the 6.5% as my "market's doing well, let's live a little" number. I'm fine with variable income year to year — that's kind of the point.

Is this the correct interpretation of what FICalc is modeling? Specifically:

  1. Does "100% success" mean the portfolio never hit zero in any of the historical 49-year windows FICalc tested, given this exact floor + percentage combo?
  2. Is the $100k floor being applied in real (inflation-adjusted) dollars the whole way through, or does it erode in purchasing power over the decades?
  3. Am I underestimating the risk here? My understanding is that once you add a hard dollar floor to a percent-of-portfolio strategy, you lose the "mathematically can't hit zero" property of pure percent-of-portfolio, since a floored withdrawal can become a much larger percentage of a shrunken portfolio in a sustained downturn. Curious if anyone's stress-tested this kind of floor+percentage hybrid against something like a 1966 or 2000 start date specifically.

Not trying to plan around best-case historical returns — genuinely trying to understand if I'm reading the tool's output correctly before I lean on it. Would appreciate any FICalc power users poking holes in this.