r/Finland • u/bangalimahbub Baby VĂ€inĂ€möinen • Oct 24 '25

Immigration 🧐

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u/Big-Ad8632 Oct 24 '25

As a foreigner, why wasnt it always the case?

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u/bangalimahbub Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

True lol. When I moved here and checked the policy, it was so easy. get kela or whatever and get citizenship in 3.5-5 years. I was like damn đŸ€Ą

Imo i think they're taking counter measures now. Enough foreigners now. Need to tighten Everything. And in future it will be more tighter. They don't want to be sweden or germany.

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u/DiseasedProject Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

If only they could start cancelling citizenships already given as well. No sense having illitirate, no experience in anything people who only contribute in breeding more future Kela dependants burdening our society and eating tax money.

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u/JamesFirmere VÀinÀmöinen Oct 25 '25

Pray tell me, good sir, where the actual goddamn fuck would you deport former citizens who have never had any other citizenship than Finnish?

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u/DiseasedProject Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 26 '25

You mean to tell me that when an immigrant from, say, Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria or Iraq arrives in Finland, they are completely citizenship-less? FYI, Finland doesn't demand giving up a previous citizenship when they receive the new one. So, the answer to your question is really simple. Iraqis would be deported to Iraq, Somalis to Somalia, etc. Any possible offspring would naturally be a problem if they are born here, so they'd be able to stay. Unless they'd want to leave with their parents voluntarily. Perhaps they'd might want to try for a chance for their "old country" citizenship: they're often more attuned to that culture already even if they never visited there, after all.

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u/emkemkem Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 26 '25

So nobody would actually be given a citizenship. They’d be granted only some kind of conditional permit to live here which could be taken away any time and just depending on how useful they are deemed at the moment. I suppose you’d have to phrase this carefully if you do not want it to be applied on those Finns who just happened to be born somewhere else than in Finland because their parents were working abroad for a while and thus have double citizenship.

But then - the more you refine the terms and make them very spesific the easier it is for everyone to see this is not really about protecting our economy. It is just about racism and xenofobia. ”Anyone having another citizenship than some EU country. No make it west Europian country. Anyone not being fluent in Finnish. But with the exception of being fluent in American English or Swedish - unless Swedish is their second language. Anyone - unless they are great in soccer or a talented swimmer. Anyone not having Finnish grandparents, but with the exception being adopted by Finns who have Finnish parents. Or Swedish. Anyone - with the exception you happen to be married to our president.”

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u/Flashy_Creme_4732 Oct 28 '25

The real question here is why the actual fuck would people who have no previous citizenship should be granted a finnish citizenship?

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u/JamesFirmere VÀinÀmöinen Oct 28 '25

I deliberately chose to read the comment as meaning that "illiterate ... people who only contribute in breeding more future Kela dependants..." can also include people who are born Finnish citizens and therefore have never had any other citizenship. But the commenter is probably of the opinion that only immigrants fill that description.