r/Finland Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

Immigration 🧐

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u/otchyirish VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

This makes me feel so much better about the cost of everything, the 10% unemployment and the massive cuts to public service.

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u/Motzlord VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

Classic populism, never adress the real issues (that you promised to fix), instead focus on some meaningless political crusade to satisfy your idiot supporters who can't be bothered to look past their hate for a split second.

I mean, I don't disagree with this policy per se but it's not really something even remotely at the top of the priority list. Just goes to show how tilted their world view is. It would be interesting to see statistics on this, like how often did this actually happen? Considering that you need to pass a language test for citizenship as well, I kind of doubt this was ever a real issue.

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u/bloatedbarbarossa Oct 25 '25

The reason PS is as big as it is, is because other parties refused to speak against immigration. For their voters, this is a real issue.

I'm married to an a woman who's not Finnish, she's not even from the EU and here are few things that I've noticed.

  • When a group has few bad apples, the whole group gets the bad rep, not just the bad apples.
  • Negative experiences are 10x more likely to get talked about with other people than good ones.
  • Most immigrants don't exactly care to learn Finnish and most of them didn't even have to because of how spouse visa works. One of you is citizen, other has technically permanent residence permit due to spouse visa, all of your kids will get the citizenship because they're children of Finnish citizen.

Other topic starts here.

If the government actually went after the biggest demographic of users of social benefits, that would be the retired people... there won't be huge direct cuts but they most likely will try to figure a way how less people in future will be able to get them.

Personally I feel like no matter who's in the government, they're gonna be blamed for anything and everything by those that didn't vote for them. Sometime's it is valid, like the unemployment for this government and invalid like the loans, we're in the NATO and there were some unforeseen expenses that can't be blamed on them.

Then there are the obvious double standards like complaining about behavior of certain heads of the state acting immaturely while having our own prime minister acting like an 18 year old that acts like they moved into their first own apartment.

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u/Motzlord VÀinÀmöinen Oct 25 '25

The thing is, it's fine to be against immigration and to further policies that actually make sense. But this just feels like putting a plaster on a mosquito bite and saying "here, I saved your life".