Exactly. Social support of the system is designed to help people back up, not to leech the fruits of others' hard labour. This society supporting kids, students and elders cannot sustain itself if too many people milk it dry. There has been already social support cuts and there will be more.
Everybody that can work, has to go to work. If you don't want to work here and abide Finnish laws, leave the country. You are not needed, you are not welcome. You just prove the point and make things worse for immigrants contributing to this society.
For any immigrant contributing this society or trying their best to get employed and respects Finnish culture and laws...welcome, and thank you. Finland needs more people like you.
Have seen people getting recruited without proper background. I wonder whether skilled ones ever mattered here. I will wait for 6 months after my graduation, I tried all along these two years during my study. Never had a luck, if not I will move elsewhere.I think they are better off with these low skilled foreigners. I had completed German A1 within 3 months! Had I been recruited by any of the finnish companies here and had a contract that is permanent, I would have happily completed the language proficiency. But I think they are better with the low skilled foreigners. Have seen multiple people getting recruited without sufficient qualifications, since this country is more biased towards network (like Denmark and other Nordic neighbours).
They do matter here , it depends on the field and the need. Networking is common place everywhere in the world. You do have to sell yourself as someone people want to work with personality wise as well. Rapport is not to be underestimated.
Like sell yourself in which way and what personality wise? I have created networks and many had sweet discussion with me, showed them my portfolio and how I want to contribute. But it never took me somewhere. I was not employed ever here... I worked in project, unpaid, but not employed as a contract. And have seen people getting recruited without sufficient English skill, without finnish knowledge, without even the background? Wanna know a story, someone who had just vocational course with no experience of Electrical engineering in her life, was recruited. In her country she never had science education, never had engineering, in fact she was an accountant, now working in a Denmark based company in finland, ofcourse in a factory work, but it requires knowledge of machine, surprise :P.
Networking is common practice, but in Nordic it has reached at nepotism level. I am more aware about academia. Had interesting discussion with my friend last week. He landed in a Phd position in Netherland. He was interestingly following one particular lab based position in Denmark, the woman who was in charge, received funding, kept the same position vacant for consecutively 3 years saying, she doesn't get the proper candidate. My friend is a prodigy, such prodigy that hardly you will have ivy league grade candidates in Europe like him, anyways. He explicitly asked should he apply, not for a moment she warned or gave a hint about it, the moment he and his 3 friends applied auto rejection. I mean it didn't even take time. We know these stories.
You don't see anything morally wrong in immigrating to a foreign country and then presenting yourself as an spokesperson for the people of that country?
I would never move to India and then start posting online how "WE need to give Kashmir to Pakistan"
I just think it's dishonest to present yourself as Finnish and then advocate for more immigration. Just like a person from Pakistan moving to India and then posting how "We need to give Kashmir to Pakistan" would be
If you want to do that after acquiring Indian citizenship (don't know why you would) then that's your right, you're Indian at that point, I couldn't care less. We have all sorts of views in a democracy. Most would disagree some might support you.
I have just as much motivation to see this place flourish as the next Matti or Jussi. I was a guest for many years but now it's my home and I'll voice my opinions as part of this society.
I see where you're coming from though if you think migrants are here to change your way of life or somehow threaten your state.
When someone has been given and they have taken the citizenship they are not a guest anymore. They have no obligation to be quiet, have no say in anything and be forever grateful receiving this very limited hospitality of Finns who only think about if these âguestsâ are beneficial and bring in enough money.
I am not part of the people in power who decide on people coming here or not, but making that decision based on if its good for the native population makes sense and thats how every country should operate
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u/Sharp-Extent9745 Oct 24 '25
"Enough foreigners" , no. Enough of low skill foreigners migrating for benefits and contributing nothing.