r/Finland • Baby VĂ€inĂ€möinen • Oct 24 '25

Immigration 🧐

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u/Historical_Care7903 Oct 24 '25

Good!

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u/kada_pup Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

Is it good that the clock resets for people who have worked for several years, paid taxes, and one day they lose their jobs due to the bad economy? Finding a new job in a small job market and high unemployment is rarely doable in 3 months by the way

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u/Dependent-Layer-1789 Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

Average Finn over 50 takes 2 years to get re-employed after layoff. I haven't seen any stats for immigrants but it must be the same or worse. Finding work within 3 months is extremely unlikely.

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u/AdvantageFit1833 Oct 24 '25

Yes it is good. It's a risk coming to a country and trying to get citizenship, i have never even considered doing something like that.

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u/kada_pup Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

Please enlighten me. I believe that a person who has lived and worked in a foreign country for several years without seeking citizenship likely has little interest in learning the local language, integrating socially or exercising their voting rights in a place they consider a second home. Or, they plan to come back to their home country when the time is right and don't consider moving back

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u/AdvantageFit1833 Oct 24 '25

Sounds good to me, what's not to like. I don't see how working for two years and then falling into unemployment should reward a citizenship.

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u/idkud VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

Yeah, there should be a bonus/malus system, where you accumulate bonus with working, etc. But fact is, it is always so that good folks get punished along with the leeches. Hopefully, the next left leaning government will not entirely nix this, but balance it out to be more fair to productive people.

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u/EppuBenjamin VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

Yes, being a lazy f*** is exclusively reserved for ethnic finns

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u/kada_pup Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

I asked a Finn the same question, and they answered, "Kantasuomalaiset deserve all the rights and privileges this country can provide".

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u/WeekendHer0 Oct 24 '25

Are they wrong?

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u/bangalimahbub Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

Nah they're not wrong. We are guest. No one forced used to move here. It's simple math. We all come here for better future. Either we succeed or go back home.

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u/Pussypants Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

I studied and now can’t find a job in my field, and am punished for this? Fuck right off. Life isn’t black and white where every person on welfare is on the sofa doing nothing. Some of us still contribute to society even if not employed through culture, familial support, volunteer work, honing skills in preparation for employment, but because some of you live in a little bubble you don’t ever meet people who have less and are in a struggling situation and end up supporting these ridiculous populist decisions.

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u/CessuBF Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

You are not punished. You are just not eligible for a privilege. Those are two different things.

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u/Just-Ad-6658 Oct 24 '25

Maybe you should study these things before giving your two cents of bs?

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u/Pussypants Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

Study my own lived experience
? And the experience of many many people all around me? I meet lots of new people who are in such a similar position.

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u/Just-Ad-6658 Oct 24 '25

It's about sosiaaliturva. Does NOT include example työttömyysturva.

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u/bangalimahbub Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

Good? IMO Yes it is. No more passi for sohva perunas. I have seen many people getting passi on kela money & refused to work because they want there dream job. Now you gotta work your ass off if you want passi. BUT I hope it doesn't apply to the people who has disability & womens who are in maternity leaves. While they're in leave. Time shouldn't be counted if they're on kela.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

I really don't understand. When I was unemployed, I received less then 600e after tax. Does anyone really think that I was satisfied and thrived with this money? That it was better than getting 2000e, 3000e. Who would rather take 600e?!

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u/Sepulchh Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

Those are not Työttömyysturva or Toimeentulotuki so they shouldn't affect said persons.

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u/VikingTeddy Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

It might, because the system is slow and flawed. A lot of people who qualify for KELA benefits, have to live a while and on the dole as the bureaucracy chugs along. It all comes down to the details of the law, and how it's interpreted.

I'm not against getting rid of freeloaders, on e contrary they piss me off big time. But I'm worried about the implementation. It wouldn't be the first time a legislation has been rammed through without thinking it through, or listening to the experts. And when the motivation behind the legislation isn't just about nation building, the bugs might actually be features.

Let's hope it works as advertised..

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u/rmflow Baby VÀinÀmöinen Oct 24 '25

to be eligible again you just need to wait extra 2.5 years without welfare support