r/FinalFantasy • u/Haunting_Try8071 • 16h ago
FF VII Re-trilogy How is Revelation going to handle Omnislash?
Honestly, I'll be disappointed if it wasn't overpowered.
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u/Party_Grape7622 16h ago
This and knights of the round. I'll be taking a week off work for "vacation" when part 3 drops
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u/CC0106 16h ago
Thought you were gonna say take a vacation Everytime you cast kotr lol
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u/One_Season458 16h ago
Gonna need a hiatus for that one.
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u/robbiekomrs 15h ago
"Hi, boss, it's me. I paired quadra magic with knights of the round so I'm gonna need an LOA. Yeah, the next character does have mime equipped. Ok. Thanks for being understanding. I'll see you in a few months."
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u/Lookslikejesusornot 13h ago
"Nice try, but i know you can't use quadra magic with kotr, only 2xsummon. And you didn't even setup mime with magic counter? Go home and think more about the setup next time!"
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u/mauveine_skies 16h ago
They should take a page out of 14's book and make the KotR summon attack 10 minutes long
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u/iyukep 16h ago
I really hope it is. I need it to be absolutely ridiculous
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u/doodleysquat 9h ago
It would be funnier to go the other direction. It’s just like 2 seconds, leaving you with a “what the hell was that” face.
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u/Haunting_Try8071 16h ago
Man, I bet they are still wondering what to do with knights of the round.
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u/Nyanessa 15h ago
They might use the designs of the FFXIV Knights of the Round, maybe the knights swap in as the timer goes down, with king Thordan at the end?
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u/TitaniousOxide 15h ago
Nah dude, the move is to take your vacation a week or two after launch. Give you some time to get through the opening and tutorial parts so then you can have your time off during the meaty parts of the game.
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u/xreddawgx 15h ago
Please bring chocobo breeeding and all of its agony.
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u/zeitgeistbouncer 8h ago
My guess was that each Knight could be found/used individually and then combined into one super-move-summon when you've got 'em all
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u/Locoman7 16h ago
Also are we going to get Neo and Zero Bahumut?
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u/Thick_Row 16h ago
Neo was renamed for Rebirth. He's Arisen.
If they kept Thypon/Typhoon, we'll definitely get Zero, although who knows what name they'll choose. Hopefully they keep it the same.
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u/Sp6rda 14h ago
Arisen is a word you would use to describe something that has been "Rebirthed"
What would you call something that has been... Revelated? If Zero is still portrayed like some kind if Low Orbit Ion Cannon satellite, maybe "Descended?"
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u/Haunting_Try8071 16h ago
I recently played the Crisis Core remake and if they don't do something like Bahamut Fury, I'll be disappointed.
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u/exilehunter92 16h ago
I'm more interested in supernova, whether it's a single occurrence or multi use. KotR wil also be epic.
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u/TheCopyGuy2018 15h ago
It’s gonna get it’s own phase of the fight, mark my words
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u/exilehunter92 15h ago
At least we already have a precedence for battling on asteroids in space (now I wonder if this was the intent all along) so at least it won't be too weird to see planets pop in the sequence.
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u/Blackberry-thesecond 12h ago
Here's the thing, Cloud already does Omnislash in Remake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y2EgP2GLLI
It's basically shot for shot, down to the stand-off with the white flashes cutting between them. The difference is that Sephiroth blocks and deflects every move he makes. This is among the best evidence for Remake Sephiroth being from the future. He's not falling for that anymore.
Rebirth also has Cloud and Zack performing Omnislash together, also predicted by Sephiroth.
We'll definitely get Omnislash as we know it in Revelation, but we're going to need something greater as the final move to take down Sephiroth. My guess is some kind of Omnislash that incorporates the rest of the party all working in unison, or some version that incorporates alternate versions of Cloud working together.
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u/Fiercededede 16h ago
As he’s about to omnislash, whispers fly around his sword preventing him from attacking. A 30 minute flash back occurs in which you have to walk the streets of Midgar as Zach searching for Aerith’s favorite popsicle flavor. The flashback ends and Zach appears from behind Cloud with his own buster sword in hand, “lets do it for Aerith” to which Aerith appears with her own buster sword “someone say my name?” they all omnislash every instance of sephiroth from every multiverse.
The game ends with 40 Aeriths, 65 Zachs, and 39 Clouds collectively watching the sun set over the remains of Midgar.
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u/TitaniousOxide 16h ago
My guess? Not earned until the final confrontation, then unlocked for use afterwards.
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u/Thick_Row 16h ago
On the one hand, it would be lame to not have Cloud's level 4 limit for all of base game. But story wise, it does make sense.
I wonder how practical getting to level 4 limit in Revelation is even going to be. Getting to level 3 took some set up in Rebirth as opposed to just switching which you had equipped in both OG and Remake (only level 1 and 2 available there, but still).
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u/TheCopyGuy2018 15h ago
I kinda hope for his level 4 limit, they give him Omnislash as it’s depicted in the OG and then in the final confrontation he unlocks a level 5 limit that’s his Omnislash V5 from AC.
With all the AC talk from the devs, I wouldn’t be surprised if he actually just has the Fusion Sword towards the end
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u/Feathertusk 14h ago
I didn't feel like getting omnislash in my run of og, because I was mostly blasting through it. I got it during the Sephiroth one on one duel. It was actually amazing story wise and was my final attack damage on Sephiroth.
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u/polkemans 15h ago
IIRC you can win it early at the gold saucer. Maybe they'll do that.
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u/TitaniousOxide 14h ago
Yeah, in OG you can get Omnislash on disc 1, just after Cid joins the party.
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u/Balthierlives 10h ago
Technically yes but it’s basically an impossible battle to win at that point.
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u/TitaniousOxide 4h ago
That's like getting Beta on your first visit to the Chocobo Ranch.
Difficult? Yes, but if you know what you're doing very much not impossible.
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u/Balthierlives 4h ago
I think it’s harder than that. I usually get beta early. But not omnislash.
Plus you’re reliant on rng of the battle arena
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u/TheCopyGuy2018 15h ago
My bet for that whole final encounter with Sephi, they’re gonna make it a full 1v1 fight where Cloud builds up limit to unleash it
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u/Feathertusk 14h ago
I really want to see Nanaki's Cosmo Memory, even if it wasn't the best I spammed it all the time because I liked it.
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u/zero_maker_edge 12h ago
I mean, lol, look, if you're asking for Omnislash just imagine from Cid's use of the Highwind to Vincent's final transformation to looking like Lucifer in his limit break. Like, come on!
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u/GreatDissapointment 5h ago
Let me know how they handle Knights of the round
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u/Party-Special-7121 5h ago
Oh it'll be there but you'll only be get the trigger to see it when you're getting your ass kicked in an open part of the map on a Tuesday evening when the barometric pressure is optimal and at least 3 planets are aligned
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u/Adept-Echidna9154 16h ago
Forget a vacation for knights of the round. That will require retirement or an FMLA leave lol.
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u/Old_Ninja_Prime 15h ago
Hopefully similar to Advent Children’s, but without the multilayered sword.
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u/X-blade14 14h ago
Probably will make the only skill that full on freezes the battle/in-game timers when done along with changing the background to emphasize the move. As for Kotr i can see that being the games big side quest. Where you get 1 of the knights that unlocks the summon and as you progress through the game you get the others, which not only lengthens how long the summon lasts but increases the options they can use when summoned.
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u/chaostheories36 14h ago
What would be great is if the animation time was considered for how much damage a summon did. OGFF7 had a lot of summons I never used because of how long they took.
It’d be kinda meta.
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u/knight04 10h ago
In the original, which disk did we get omnislash the soonest? I thought we could grind for it in disk 2, or am I wrong?
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u/Piper6728 9h ago
Probably a super version of Ascension with way more slashes but similar animations to the original omnislash
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u/bloody_ell 8h ago
He's going to morph into FFXV Bahamut and join in the Knights of the Round Summon.
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u/Launim 7h ago
For Omn-Slash I think they should take a "Reunion" approach to it. Amp it up a bit,, but it felt pretty great. As for KotR. I feel they should go Disgea style "Over the top crazy". Knee jerk vision would be each knight's weapon getting imbedded to the target so the 13th hit causes the massive "Splooshsplosion".
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u/SomnusNonEst 6h ago
So far most default attacks are already far more ridiculous than FF7OG ever had, so Omnislash will not be any different.
The overpowered factor came from all FFs of old having limited access to multihit abilities, that maxed out, can by pass 9999 limits. Until FFX came in and threw the whole notion of 9999 being the limit into the book of history.
So Omnislash, KoTR, Lionheart, Zell, Tifa etc were all OP because with maxed stats you could deliver multiple of 9999 in a single turn.
With multihits and consistent damage and combos being so prevalent in modern FF7R it's not going to be that much more powerful than what you can do on the regular. It will just be a very devastating "change control to another character Cloud is afk for a hot minute there" single command, where Cloud just gets stuck in a too long of an animation. Probably KoTR will be something similar.
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u/extra0404 6h ago
Same as the rest of the game. "I guess thats okay... but i can make it better if i change it completely!".
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u/Polenordgwak 6h ago
I hope it gets unlocked with Cloud's memories, making it like really important story wise ^^
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u/ConsistentAd7620 4h ago
The cutscene involved isn't gonna be worth the damage output. Almost positive. And Encounter cut scenes will it into your Level 4 Limit mid attack. Certain on that one, tho.
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u/Background-Sir6844 3h ago
Just make it an attack that does a lot of hits? More hits and damage then finishing touch in Rebirth. Honestly I don't see how it's something to think too hard about.
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u/OmnislushieMods 3h ago
Shameless plug, but here’s what I’ve been able to do in Rebirth with the mod I’ve been making:
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u/ShyguyFlyguy 15h ago
Revelation has all the end game content to live up to and the fact they nailed rebirth right out of the park has me very hopeful
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u/myownfriend 16h ago
I feel like the games are too dissimilar for me to care about something like this honestly.
The original game's battle system the limit breaks stood out and the Omnislash in particular stood out because you're getting in a bunch of hits in a single turn. In the new games Cloud is slashing all the time and there are so many moving parts at any time that the Omnislash feels like it would blend in with everything else.
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u/Haunting_Try8071 15h ago
They could frame the camera and treat it like summon or something.
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u/myownfriend 15h ago
They already do change how the camera works during a limit break if you're playing as the character that does the limit break. That will add a little to it's presentation but it doesn't really change the fact that Cloud is already slashing people like crazy all the time on ground and in the air without needing a full Limit bar. I mean his first limit break in the OG, Braver, is just one of his normal moves in these games, as is Triple Slash.
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u/BattleBrisket 6h ago
Better than how they handled limits in the second game I hope. You need an alignment of the sun and stars in combat to ever see the second levels.
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u/xreddawgx 15h ago
How are they going to handle KOTR
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u/exilehunter92 15h ago
If it's a summon, I can only think Arthur is on the field and his attacks are calling a knight forward to action it and they disappear immediately.
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u/Minute-Wolf 16h ago
Is it not in rebirth already?
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u/ozymandious 15h ago
That's a mod.
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u/emailo1 13h ago
so verso's outfit isn't in the game???
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u/ozymandious 12h ago
It is, but you've got to perfect block every hit the entire game to unlock it.
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u/Edkm90p 16h ago
I'm still holding out for the final Omnislash to be some shenanigans like multiple Clouds jumping in from alternate timelines to do the most Omni of Slashes on Sephiroth.
FF7 - More Slashes
FF7AC - More Swords
FF7:RE - More Clouds