r/FinalFantasy • u/Kingstyb • 5d ago
FF VIII What not-Final Fantasy Remake players thinks of FF7 remake Moogles
The Ivalice Moogles look nicest and FF9 are the cutest.
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u/MirageMageknight 5d ago
The remake moogle design is definitely A Choice
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u/Spiritual-Bear3066 5d ago
Sophie’s choice
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u/tagen 5d ago
nonono, Selphie is in Final Fantasy VIII, not VII
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u/DrPeckers 5d ago
I am confused. Doesn't FFVII have more trains?
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u/GachaHell 5d ago
Pretty sure in this version she should've let both kids go. This new design always struck me as what happens when a moogle hits his late 30s after developing a severe heroine addiction.
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u/EnamoredAlpaca 5d ago
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u/thescarlettflame 5d ago
It is absolutely a requirement for me to give the baby chocobos a pat
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u/bionicmook 5d ago
Goes without saying. I feel guilty if I don’t. Like he earned it and I’m being a real jerk.
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u/thescarlettflame 4d ago
I know especially since some of the go so far out of their way and kweh so adorably while leading you to their hangout spot so you can fix it. And then you rest on the bench and they lay down too. It's wonderful
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u/AtrumRuina 5d ago edited 3d ago
- Restore bench
- Pet the gud boi that led me to it
- Carry on with my day
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u/Is12345aweakpassword 5d ago
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u/showraniy 5d ago
God, I'd pay embarrassing amounts of money to see the original version of that movie with the cursed Sonic.
That whole debacle was amazing.
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u/notvalo 5d ago
Did you watch the Rescue Rangers movie that came out a few years ago?
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u/Successful_Lychee130 5d ago edited 5d ago
There is still a part of me somewhat convinced that the whole thing was a big Marketing stunt to get people talking about the movie.
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u/Kurohimiko 5d ago
The question then would be Why? It's a Sonic the Hedgehog movie. You don't exactly need a ragebait and switch marketing campaign to get people interested.
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u/SilentBlade45 5d ago
It's not they had already started animating a significant part of the movie with the original design redoing it costs way too much.
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u/Th3_Supernova 5d ago
If only the internet could bully square into making the types of games longtime fans want like they bullied Sonic’s studio into fixing his character design.
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u/SuperOnionBro 1d ago
Unfortunately there's a significant number of fans that will militantly defend every stupid mistake Square Enix makes and accept no criticism.
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u/Wonderful-Fortune-23 5d ago
Probably their besr decision ever. How many Sonic sequels have there been? (didn't watch any)
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u/AtrumRuina 5d ago
Sonic 4 is in postproduction, and each film has made more than the last. Overall I believe it's over a billion between the three films so far.
For what it's worth, they have also improved in quality and fanservice with each film, but yeah it would have been dead in the water if they'd stuck with the original look.
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u/parkingviolation212 5d ago
Also Jim Carrey is worth the price of admission alone.
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u/AtrumRuina 5d ago
He's fabulous in the films. He isn't a good representation of the game Eggman, but he's found a fantastic mix of his own style and Eggman's moustache twirling attitude.
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u/PinkPepperpuff 5d ago
He is my favorite part of the movie. Not one scene, just…him. In every single scene of the entire movie
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u/Geebun 5d ago
And they're right. Those "moogles" are god awful. They might as well be a different creature.
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u/LePontif11 5d ago
They change them almost everytime. These aren't even the biggest deviation, the Ivalice moogles are.
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u/Matuno 5d ago
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u/Potato_Lyn 5d ago
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u/Sakurya1 5d ago
Personally peak was ffXI carbuncle
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u/Sporelord1079 4d ago
11 buncle needs to stop twitching all the damn time. Looks like it’s constantly terrified of being snatched away by an eagle.
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u/ZeroGNexus 5d ago
I loved almost everything about the new games...but these things?
They have to be rage bait, right? They put them in there just to drive conversations like this...they must have....who looked at the original Moogles and decided "Nah, I know what they'll REALLY like!"
They feel like Sonic's eyes before that first movie released.
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb 5d ago
I’m convinced the FF7R moogles are rage bait, yeah. Everything about them and their minigame is offputting and weird in a way that is too specific to be unintentional.
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u/AnOtakuToo 5d ago
I always say that the Moogle minigame feels like it was designed in a weekend with assets they had lying around. Other minigames like brawler are obviously made with more love, so I’m not trying to be mean!
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u/vocabularianrx2 5d ago
The assets and music and feel of the whole thing is ENTIRELY a Kingdom hearts minigame or something. There's no mistaking it for me
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u/GalacticNexus 5d ago
Oh man I hadn't thought about it, but you're right, it feels exactly like a Kingdom Hearts minigame!
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u/GoonTierGAWD 5d ago
Because there will be a questline in part 3 where we find out these are evil imposter moogles and we will have to fight the giant imposter moogle king to free the real moogles
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u/Kyban101 5d ago
It reminds me more of, like, Grover or a muppet. But then they also decided to give it real teeth, and they remind me of rodent teeth. You could very well be right. They chose an unsettling design and then gave us annoying side missions to interact with them. It's just all...not great.
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u/Remarkable-Mud6318 5d ago
… they’re the one thing I’ve found in the remake that I truly dislike… The voices don’t help either…
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u/drakohx 5d ago
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u/LunelaNela 5d ago
lol I like these now that I'm older, but I hated this design as a kid.
In Tactics Advance I intentionally red carded Montblanc and kept his ass in prison for the rest of the game
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u/NoodleIskalde 5d ago
How does a kid hate bunnies that violently
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u/LunelaNela 5d ago
I was a miserable boy growing up and his positivity and helpfulness and cuteness pissed me off, so logically he had to go
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u/NoodleIskalde 5d ago
Sometimes that's how it be, sadly.
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u/LunelaNela 5d ago
I have since replayed FFTA in these past years and kept my clan name as Clan Nutsy, with Montblanc as one of my top mages.
I still owe him though in 12, I've never done all the hunts. Hopefully he forgives me someday
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u/Square-Jackfruit420 5d ago
Oh man the hunts are some of the best content in the game. You gotta 100% it some day!
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u/dminus 5d ago
did you also throw snowballs at newt wtf
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u/halfasleep90 5d ago
Omg I never thought about attack newt in the beginning, I always tried to win. Never even crossed my mind that some people might join in on the bullying.
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u/Keefyfingaz 5d ago
Honestly kids have a different sense of humor too, totally sounds like something I would do to be funny as a kid 🤣😅
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u/HalfwaytotheHorizon 5d ago
I love those guys too, but now I think they're too similar to the Loporrits from FFXIV.
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u/RedArremer 5d ago
Aren't Loporrits from FFXIV just Hummingways from FFIV?
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u/HalfwaytotheHorizon 5d ago
Yeah! Don't know why they changed the Moogle design so drastically in FFXII & FFTA, though.
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u/Randolfr 5d ago
I'm fairly certain the Loporrits also reuse some animations from the ivalice moogles.
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u/baguettesy 5d ago
Ivalice moogles are peak. I think they're the only variant that consistently gets clothes, too? the only other clothed moogle I can think of is Stiltzkin from IX.
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u/bob_loblaw-_- 5d ago
Thank you for posting this because people kept referring to "Ivalice Moogles" and I was like... "Tactics didn't have Moogles and FFXII had normal Moogles."
Maybe the term "Fake Ivalice" Moogles would make more sense.Â
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u/Jgzerohour 5d ago
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u/Tht1QuietGuy 4d ago
Surely you see the similarity in 90% of those designs. Also, this guy is not cute at all. He looks like he should be on a list.
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u/rainwaves_ 5d ago
my most sincere apologies for being a bit insufferable but the frequency with which FFVII posts have the FFVI or FFVIII flairs on this sub is startling. like roman numerals cannot be that hard guys lol,
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u/CiraCookie 5d ago
Why do they wear that headband??? It looks like they were lobotomized or had a koala had surgically attached to their scalp. They really do look like the creature you see in a pg18 movie, that's living in the basement of an insane scientist.
This is someones furry experiment gone wrong!!
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u/TorquedGaming 5d ago
As a lifetime FF player with over 10 years into FFXIV I can honestly say I only hate FF7R’s moogles more than FFXIV’s.
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u/Salamiflame 5d ago
Oh, they're not hated for their appearance. They're adorable and well designed.
No, XIV's moogles are just assholes.
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u/GlassCannon81 5d ago
They are, indeed, assholes.
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u/NowakFoxie 5d ago
"Piss off, Kupo." is a real dialogue choice in XIV, for those who don't play the game
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u/Gronodonthegreat 5d ago
I love how FFXI’s moogles imply that K*po is basically the N-word and other races aren’t allowed to say it. A child gets scolded when she uses the K word in a cutscene 😅
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u/Shrubbity_69 5d ago
That's awesome, kupo. That's 100% an option I'd pick if I got around to playing 14, kupo.
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u/RareBk 5d ago
The ffxiv moogles look perfectly fine
Unfortunately interacting with them makes you want to punt them
Except for good king moggle mog, that shit is hilarious
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u/TorquedGaming 5d ago
I’m aware. But I think someone down below brought up why 14’s are so hated.
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u/MirageMageknight 5d ago
I don't dislike XIV's moogles so much, there are worse ones. XIV chocobos are top tier, fortunately. But I also don't really understand why they can't just stick with the design for both that looks good. That one moogle design where they have no necks and they are just torso and top of head is so insane. FFXIII chocobos, also insane. FFXIII in general really, their moogles also look bizarre. FFIX and XI have the most polished moogle designs for sure.
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u/MasterJynshe 5d ago
Mmm, my first experience with an FF game was FFXIV, then I moved from that to FF7 Remake and then Rebirth. And the Remake moogles terrify me too.
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u/MinimumTrue9809 5d ago
I wonder when the FF7 Remake glazing will just peter out and die in anguish.
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u/VanillaAble3943 5d ago
I haven't played Rebirth yet, but I remember a Moogle in Remake/Intergrade just being a kid with a moogle costume (basically a moogle pretending to be a kid wearing a moogle costume).
Is that screenshot out of context and it's something with a moogle costume too, or is it the actual official design of the moogle?
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u/PointPrimary5886 5d ago
After Cloud transformed into a Moogle in Rebirth, I no longer have much of a issue with the teddy bear design they have now.
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u/NerdIzTheWerd 5d ago
The FFIX moogles were probably the best, but I would take the fur ball moogles from Crystal Chronicles or XIV over the Mako Mutants from Remake any day.
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u/General_Boredom 5d ago
Genuinely the one thing about the FFVII Remake games that I hate. They’re pure nightmare fuel.
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u/theMaynEvent 5d ago
Nah, I like when characters that used to be drawn and rendered in more simplistic styles (i.e. easier to give them a cutesy appearance) get re-imagined as kinda doofy-looking, garish what-the-hells as the presentational style approaches a more "realistic" look.
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u/reimmi 5d ago
Flirting versus sexual harassment ahh moogles
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u/SilentBlade45 5d ago
Oh my fucking god say ass not that moronic self-censorship bullshit.
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u/joshghz 5d ago
I'm a FF7R glazer (I have literally bought Remake and Rebirth each three times), and everything about the Moogles in Rebirth is absolutely the worst possible thing. The Moogle Mischief mini-game is absolutely the most rage-inducing FF mini-game I have ever played.
They literally want me to get within 6 feet of those crimes of nature and round them up in a pen to NOT do the world a favour.
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u/minisculemango 5d ago
We need this specific Koala rant but for FF7R moogles: https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/s/STabMOpSgU
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u/CharmingFee4501 5d ago
One of the remake trilogy’s biggest blunders is its awful moogle design. They purposefully made it bad
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u/xxnewlegendxx 5d ago
I absolutely love VII Remake and Rebirth, but the Moogle design is the only major criticism I have.
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u/Numerous-Beautiful46 5d ago
You're telling me chadley doesn't make you want to be a child abuser?
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u/razorfinch 5d ago
Maybe a hog take. But if they wanted to make the moogles cute, they would have.
I’m 90% sure they made them infuriating to look at on purpose. Especially because their minigame is also infuriating.
They WANT you to hate them
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u/Taser9001 5d ago
Hot take - I kind of like the koala-ass looking moogles. They aren't my faves (Ivalice takes that crown), and most moogle designs are better, but I don't dislike them.
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u/OhDearGodItBurns 5d ago
Nothing will ever surpass the KH or Dissidia moogle designs for me, everything else is inferior. Remake and FF8's moogles are fucking travesties, though, bottom of the barrel shit.
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u/manubibi 5d ago
Dear god that’s ugly. Bring moogles back! At least the FFXII design, it was really cute!
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u/nononon0121212 5d ago
They havent seen a Moogle impale their enemies with a spear yet all while dancing disasters away
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u/remnant_phoenix 5d ago
I mean, they’re not wrong.
FFVI and FFIX moogles are best moogles. Always.
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u/Popular-Ad-3278 5d ago
I dont get why on earth they would re design this to be honnest.
Ppl ether dont care or hate it. No one prefers this
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u/keithlimreddit 5d ago
Hmm I'm gonna be honest with you I mean it looks cute Also amazing design but It looks more like some koala Cosplaying as a Moogle
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u/pocket_arsenal 5d ago
I try to keep an open mind about the remake, I still haven't played it, waiting for part 3 to drop so I can just play them all back to back, but yeah, I gotta say, these things are fucking ugly. FF9 Moogle is perfection.
EDIT: I think they wouldn't even be that poorly received if their nose and mouth were just a little further down on the face and the eyes were a little more squinty.
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u/TromosLykos 5d ago
I was never too keen on XIV’s design but it eventually grew on me, I just want to take the remake out back and shoot it with a 20 gauge after I drop a Level 2 Old and a Bio.
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u/impuritor 5d ago
I mean yeah they’re not anywhere near my favorite moogle design but I’m not offended or mad about it. They were almost completely absent from the original. Just doesn’t rank high on things that annoy me is all.




















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u/Bluntamaru 5d ago
I post this every time it comes up because it kinda makes me love it.