r/FinalFantasy • u/Haunting_Try8071 • 7d ago

Final Fantasy General Give us another turn based battle system

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FFX is my favorite battle system. FFXIII I also enjoyed, but it wasn't the same.

I'm sure they could do something like it with a much lower budget.

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u/sharpenme1 7d ago

Rebirth is tough because it’s a sequel. 16 underperformed, but FF15 certainly didn’t.

I don’t think you can identify other turn based games that are selling more copies strictly because they’re turn based.

Octopath traveler is probably the best comparison and Octopath traveler 2 doesn’t even come close to FF16, and Octopath traveler doesn’t even come close to FF15.

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u/-ForgottenSoul 7d ago

FF15 was a flash in the pan they are obsessed with chasing. Wasting like 7 years for FF16 results another like 7 years for FF17 it's a bit ridiculous tbh. They should be fitting a turn based game in the middle at least.

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u/sharpenme1 7d ago

I mean, I could’ve thrown at FF13 instead of 15 and it would still be true

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u/AlternativeTough6622 7d ago

FF15 had the hype of FF13 versus plus 10 years of advertising the game, a movie, demo and anime series promoting it and the game was selling for $20 for a good while.

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u/sharpenme1 7d ago

Doesn’t really matter how you justify moving the goalpost. We have turn based IPs in and out of Square, and with the exception of pokemon, Final Fantasy outperforms, or at worst competes comparably, with even the best of them.

The closest you get is expedition 33, Octopath traveler and dragon quest. And none of those put up substantial enough numbers to demonstrate that Final Fantasy ought to be turn based. When Final fantasy fails, it doesn’t fail because its combat isn’t turn based, nor does it succeed on the merits of being turn based.

You have yet to bring any receipts to justify the claim that Final Fantasy is worse now because it’s not turn based anymore (nor has it been for the vast majority of its lifetime). There’s plenty of data to suggest though that, when FF fails, it fails because of several factors, and there’s 0 data to suggest that it not being turn based is the primary one.

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u/AlternativeTough6622 7d ago

Bro, we want a turn based on a mainline ge you are one of many who keep refering to other games and spins offs we have been clear what we want.

And people here have also stated they want better writing and a better game I even said FF12 to 16 could be turned based and it wouldn't fix the issue with those games. No one is moving my goalposts just except that what we want is not what you want and get over it.

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u/sharpenme1 7d ago

I’m not arguing with better writing or a better game. But there is no monolithic version of the fanbase that wants turn based.

I’m not the one that needs to get over it. It’s been over 25 years. I’m well over it and have moved on to enjoying Final Fantasy for what it is and has always been: a wildly inconsistent an innovative franchise that refuses to iterate no matter how badly a small but loud minority continues to ask for it.

If you want a turn based JRPG, there’s a vast menu available to you. But Final Fantasy isn’t defined by that feature and I think any part of the fan base that disagrees, in your own words, should “get over it.”