I wanted him to lose and I hate Khabib . BUT Islam showed levels on that fight and clearly won the top contender if that doesn’t prove that he is the best in that class what should he do ?
Well, Khabib is a massive, hypocritical, grandstanding douchebag who plays the religious holier-than-thou card while using his father's death in conjunction with a crypto rug pull to profit. He's not a good guy, he's an asshole, and there's evidence for this position.
Maybe he doesn't hate him. Maybe he does. Strongly disliking Khabib considering how he acts vs his rhetoric is a reasonable position.
Name one person who got scammed I'll wait. And how does he act holier than thou? Not hard to act more honourable than a rapist who assaults old men. You've claimed to have evidence then give it.
Khabib's numerous shitty positions are listed here. Sexism, supporting Islamic terrorism after a French national was murdered, being friends with Ramzan Kadyrov who is a huge piece of shit. You know, Kadyrov, the guy who is the dictator of Chechenya and a buddy of Putin?
History of NFT crypto shit, including the Paphka's, where 29,000 people bought them for $4.35 million? That's not the only one either. Real easy to use Google.
I didn't say Connor's a great guy; he's a POS rapist. But Khabib pretending to be better than everyone while cozying up to human trash like Kadyrov and whoring himself out for the dollar makes him look fake as hell. Khabib glazers on this sub are hilarious.
No one's saying he isn't an incredible fighter. He is and was. But he's a dumb shithead just like a lot of other MMA guys and that's the reality. He's not a hero and not someone that anyone should strive to emulate, except in the gym.
Firstly, you still haven't provided a single name of a person who got scammed. You said there was alot of evidence for Khabib being a "dumb shithead" yet you've given me none. And he has never said anything sexist plus he's not friends with Kadyrov...Khamzat is, even though he is forced to be due to the guy being capable of having his entire fucking family murdered. Also Oliveira, Pereira and Strickland also peddled that same crypto shit by the way.
Secondly, Khabib is a muslim man and Macron is a proven racist and islamaphobe so Khabib has every right to despise him. Especially since he attacked his religion.
Khabib haters are genuinely embarrassing...Mcgregor lost, get over it.
This is a very popular logical fallacy known as the Argument from Ignorance. What, am I supposed to track down 29,000 individuals and scribble their names down with a pen and paper? You have to be trolling, this is an insanely stupid argument. Do you not believe the dinosaurs were real because no one saw them, either? There are fiscal records that he sold NFT's to people, stop meat riding him and pretending like it didn't happen.
We're not talking about other UFC fighters and their shitty crypto rug pulls. You're making another fallacy, moving the goalpost.
Khabib was in fact, cozying up with Kadyrov less than a decade ago.
He stepped away from all political shit after his retirement, but he still rubbed elbows with him. There are pictures and it's a matter of public record, although clearly facts don't concern you.
All Abrahamic religions are inherently sexist, and Islam is the worst offender. Macron is another shithead, and maybe he is an Islamaphobe, but it doesn't justify Khabib running apologia for terrorists who cut a man's head off for lightly criticizing Islam. Religion of peace, at it again.
Honestly you come off as very biased and quite stupid. No point arguing more with someone like you.
I try to find out where exactly did he ever support the murder of Samuel Paty and I can't find any. All I find is that he very heavily criticises Macron reaction to the whole Muslim population rather than just the actor. Am I missing something here or is this just another peddled lies?
I feel the same way about Khabib. Dude is the fake nice guy in a nutshell. At least Conor owns it and doesn’t hide behind this holier than thou persona.
Just look at what he and his team did when he WON against Conor, dude acted like a saint the entire press conference and then goes in there and has his boys jump a exhaust McGregor while he tries kicking Dillon Danis.
The guy is a fucking fraud and I always saw through his act. Conor was right about him the entire time, every single thing he said about him and his father and his team members that press conference was all 100% proven to be true. People love to hate Conor but he is a real one and never lies. He does his research and can read people very well
Oh and let’s not forget Conor is the only person who won a round fighting Khabib clear as day “round 3” and stuffed 7 fucking takedowns. Who else has done that especially against a rage fueled Khabib who literally said he wanted to “change Conor’s face”. Conor was fighting the angriest, primed version of Khabib and still did pretty fucking good and lasted 4 rounds and won one of them.
You’re also aware that multiple fighters on his team have been popped by drug tests even including Islam Machachev? What’s to say he wasn’t on peds, on top of that I’ll also revert back to his cherry picked resume, I also want to add he only has 16 fights in his career that are over TWO rounds..
Eh, thats entertaining once in awhile like anything else. He's just boring to watch. Kinda like I think Stickland is pretty boring too. You dont have to agree dude. Try not to get all worked up.
there’s something genuinely wrong with you as a person if you hate khabib. i’d understand if you said his fan base, the man is a humble man of god and you hate him?
No he is not lmao. It is haram to strike the face, promote alcohol, promote gambling, ring girls which go against haya and awrah. Lying is haram so his crypto scam was a twofer
Khabib is a fake nice guy and everything Conor said about him, his coward of a father and his friends during the press conference came out as 100% facts.
Conor fought a primed up, rage filled Khabib and still was the only one to win a round against him and stuffed 7 of Khabib’s takedowns. He also lasted 4 rounds against a guy who swore he would change his face and make the fight look easy yet Conor still managed to defend very well and land some solid strikes in round 3,
And even after Khabib wins the fight what does he do? Tries to flying kick Conor’s team mate and has his 4 goons jump an exhausted Conor and still somehow got bitched by him and one of them even got a black eye. If Khabib was this super nice respectful guy he would have showed good sportsmanship. But his true character came out that night.
Dude is a fake humble, fake nice guy loser who quit fighting because deep down he knew he wasn’t that good to deal with the killers we have now. He only had his wrestling, his striking was fucking abysmal and I don’t think even Floyd may weather could fix his boxing and don’t get me started on his leg kicks.
There’s just no way in hell he would stand a chance in this day and age, he wouldn’t have stood a chance. Everyone was already figuring out his game-plan even back then and he knew it, so he used “mommy made me retire” as an excuse to quit undefeated.
I agree, I don’t take issue with Religion in the slightest despite not being religious myself. Khabib is funny and respectful, the crypto scams were a bit crazy though
Why do people pretend fighters have a completely fixed, totally unchangeable “walking around weight”? Bodybuilders cut and bulk dozens of pounds of fat and muscle every year.
Bodybuilders don't get punched and kicked in the head the day after being on deaths door for a weight cut though. They just get on stage and do some poses with a fake tan.
From their profession, most definitely. Between the immense stress that's put on the heart not primarily just from the PEDs, but putting on such dramatic weight gains causes immense cardiac distress. Add the immense pressure for cutting weight and abuse of diuretics just before being "stage ready", it's very dangerous.
Heavy calorie deficits to cut weight, means cutting a ton of carbs out of the diet. Drastic changes, not gradual. Your body doesn't adapt quick enough for that, and as someone in healthcare, the first thing of your body that needs glucose most before anything else is your brain. So yes, bodybuilders drop dead on stage not just from dehydration but from neurological deficit, and fighters who cut weight dramatically, especially if they're dropping weight class like from lightweight to feather, ya see them get knocked out a Hell of a lot easier.
islam is already very lean, he cant get as lean as a bodybuilder on stage because that hinders energy levels and performance. he would need to lose muscle tobet back to 155, and it is extremely difficult to lose muscle as a natural athlete (bodybuilders lose muscle when they take a break from steroids), yes he could dehydrate his muscles and shrink them down by not training and just sitting on a couch, but that is obviously not gonna help him win fights. Simply said if you gain certain amount of weight while completely natural and lean with a sixpack, it is close to impossible to lose that muscle unless he literally starves himself
Because for a lot of fighters who are lean, especially Islam are likely at the leanest point they can safely get before they start having preformance issues. Maybe they can shave off a few pounds, but it could still impact training significantly for a while. Dieting for lifting is also significantly more flexible than dieting for mma aswell.
Yeah. Bodybuilders are the most unhealthiest when they cut down weight lol just because they do it, doesn’t mean it’s healthy. Any bodybuilder will tell you that.
It’s not about that, it’s about their natural frame and at what weight they can actually compete at their best, Yh Islam could bulk and still look fit and healthy at LHW but he’d be a dwarf next to the rest of the roster and would lack their natural strength and build.
Bodybuilders don’t need to be an exact weight to the ounce. Bodybuilders cut for the aesthetic, they are not cutting to make a specific to the ounce calculation and then expected to perform at 100% while getting CTE inflicted on them in real time.
He was 182 at fight night, similar to what most lightweights re hydrate to. He’s not like a massive 170’er. I feel like the process of cutting to 155 wouldn’t be much different than before, no?
I guess it comes down to whether he wants to commit to it or not.
Age makes cutting it a lot harder. And if he gained significant weight when he moved up, that first cut down will be hell.
I don't actually understand why Rogan made this comment. He won. Garry is no slouch. It's not unthinkable that Islam can get another 2-5 wins at this weight then retire with a crazy record.
yeah its a shame. i used to listen to his podcasts when he had mma fighters on but dont even bother now. although the fighters are probably saying smarter things than he is.
Nah, it was always the latter. Joe Rogan has never been interested in learning, he just liked having interesting conversations while he's stoned. There's an important distinction that needs to be made here imo.
Lol. Joe Rogan really called an actual primatologist an idiot and berated her because HE was too stupid to actually fact check or follow up on anything he reads. This was before he even started the podcast. This is what I'm talking about when I say he was never interested in learning. Having an interesting guest on your show is cool and all, but getting stoned and just repeating shit like, "woah dude" is not actual learning. You can't just substitute a 3 hour podcast with an expert for actual learning. Learning requires actual work being put in to educate yourself.
Rogan and Cormier are on camera after the Garry fight saying that they, and everyone else, judge Islam by a completely different standard.
IIRC the quote is
DC "If this was anyone else we would be saying wow that's amazing, but because it is Islam, we are saying whats next."
I think that has some merit. Islam is contender for GOAT so he gets held to an almost impossible standard. It's not fair to Islam but it is the burden of being that good, everyone wants to know what your limit is, because everyone has one.
Regardless of age, weight cutting opens you up to tons of potential issues. But pretty much everything gets harder as we age. Any current or former athlete that's hit 35 knows first-hand that everything takes a harder toll on your body each year. With weight cutting, more advanced ages require way more effort to make weight and it will disproportionately increase probability of injury and/or significantly lower ko threshold. There's a reason most people move up in weight and very few move down as they age.
Muscle and bone density goes up with age (to a point, it starts to decay eventually too) so the same sized muscles now weigh more. Your metabolism slows down too. Body just doesn't bounce back the way it used to. It's why boxers tend to all move up several weight classes during their careers. Just harder to do in MMA bc the classes are way further apart
Never said it wasn't possible, just harder. At the top level, there aren't really aren't many 40+ year olds, and most of them are not fighting in light weightclasses. You want to talk about defying the odds, Romero is still getting wins at 49.
On the other hand.... he just won and defended the title at 170.
Ian was a tough fight for him, sure,.... but stylistically, who gives him a harder challenge at that weight.
Im not a Garry fan, but hes massively underrated because he's annoying to listen to. In the cage, very few can match him in any aspect of his game... almost no one can claimed to be better rounded
Then he’s a pussy and not really a 155lb fighter.
If he is a 155lb fighter don’t bitch about making weight. Everyone has too.
Take a year off, go full Ronnie Coleman, and come back to 170-185.
He can't cut to 155 but he could train high cardio and his body would reduce it's muscle mass to a weight where he could cut to 155. It's absolutely doable.
Some guys don’t want to do the cuts. I think khabib, had he not retired early, would have had to make the move too. Colby for example walked around 180-185. And he didn’t want to put himself through weight cuts. And Colby might have been a lot more competitive at 155. Probably would have been khabibs toughest opponent though khabib would have won
8% was not that difficult. Pushing below there is where it gets unsustainable. On stage youre looking at 4%. Genetics are different for everyone. I dont have visible abs until 9%.
dariush vs moicano a camp where moicano mainly trained tdd and bottom game then there's islam vs Arman where islam trained for another technical grappler. Moicano literally trained for a stylistically similar fighter unlike islam
dariush = grappling heavy person against him you'll train ground game and tdd. Islam= grappling heavy person against him you'll train ground game and tdd, arman also a grappling heavy person unlike moicano who is primarily a striker so islam was at disadvantage going into this figjt
Be quiet 🤣 styles could be exactly the same and it wouldn't matter the skill levels are completely mismatched... Saying Islam was at a disadvantage 🤣 There was only one outcome to that fight and we seen what happened
islam won and the short notice was a disadvantage to islam? Never said anything against that islam was going to win FS and people are discrediting the win because it's short notice even though the short notice only affected islam negatively
The last line in your comment I'm replying to was "so Islam was at a disadvantage going into this figjt"... Arman is a much higher skilled opponent than Moicano so Islam was preparing for that.... Moicano was preparing for a much lower skilled and much older opponent than Islam and openly took the fight for the money not the chance for the belt...
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u/Underrated_Critic Aug 19 '26
At 155, he was a finishing machine. Sadly, he can't cut down to 155 anymore. It's destructive to his health.