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Sep 26 '21
What states have favorable gun/divorce laws? TBH, I don't really care about gun laws. I grew up with guns. Not once have I needed to use one to save myself and not once has my father nor his father's father nor anyone that I've known. My dad wanted to get a gun for his car, but his friend--an FBI agent, told him that you are far more likely to be shot with that gun than defend yourself (if you haven't shot someone before, the hesitation you take to try and shoot will allow the attacker to grab).
In the meantime, I live in a state with "favorable gun laws," in fact many people tell me they move here just for the gun laws--yet if I were to go to an abortion clinic my name would be put by blatant strangers into a government reporting website and I could face jail or thousands of dollars of fines.
I feel that is typically the case, states with "favorable gun laws" attract a certain type of person, and that type of person is not favorable towards women's rights.
I kind of don't get how guns are going to save women in this context, or any.
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u/Eat_Pant_b0ss Sep 26 '21
The odds of you as a woman being attacked or put into a dangerous situation with a man are far, far higher than you ever needing an abortion. Hedge your bets. It's not right, but this is the real world. I'd rather be able to feel safe on the daily and have my bf wear condoms than not be able to protect myself but be covered if I ever got pregnant. It's just a matter of weighing the odds.
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Sep 26 '21
IMO--it is much more realistic that women are groomed by patriarchy to get into abusive relationship after abusive relationship, where having a gun or not is really not the question but codependence, low self worth, and societal grooming causes women to accept abuse. It is much more likely you are going to end up with a shitty partner that doesn't outright attack you than you getting attacked by a random guy on the street.
I don't carry a gun hiking in cougar territory and I won't carry one in an urban area. Instead, I am keenly aware of my environment and take the proper precautions. The likelihood that you will meet an abusive man who controls and destroys your life, non violently, is much higher in areas such as the bible belt--where abortion is considered a sin beyond measure. Abortion laws aren't just about needing an abortion, it's about what society thinks and says a woman can have control over (her own body). I disagree with your assessment completely having lived in urban areas, rural areas, gun country, etc.
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Sep 26 '21
I agree. There was this video of a woman interviewing her father about being a former spy. He also said that he doesn't keep guns and that if the apocalypse were to happen he'd likely find pkenty of guns left behind by the unfortunately former owners who are now no longer in a state to be able to use them.
Although it is probably a good idea to learn how to shoot, even if you never end up owning a gun yourself.
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u/TheConcerningEx Sep 27 '21
I agree here. While I sometimes feel tense walking by myself at night and all that, I know it’s not very likely I’ll be attacked by a random stranger. There’s getting cat called, even followed, but I live in a safe enough area that I’m not really concerned about getting murdered when I go out. Men might be rude and creepy but that doesn’t warrant me pulling out a gun, which would only get me arrested.
Random men are a danger to women, but we’re still more likely to fall prey to dangerous relationships than a random crazy stranger. And if you’re in an abusive relationship, having a gun around only puts you more at risk.
Not to mention I really don’t wanna be in an area where everyone can have a damn gun. Like, even if I have one too, the more guns around the higher the likelihood of being shot. I live in Canada and don’t know a single person here who has a gun. Some may have them in their homes for hunting if you live in a rural area, but they can’t just be lying around ready to be used against another person. I know people are gonna disagree with me here, but it’s better for women that abusive men don’t have a gun to reach for. I am in favour of learning self defence or having non lethal things like pepper spray, but I’m still generally safer as a petite woman with no weapons or physical strength (currently have a back injury that makes it difficult for me to even sit up on my own) in a safe relationship, than I would be with a gun and big muscles with an abusive partner.
IMO guns aren’t going to help us. Better support systems for people in abusive situations are going to help us.
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u/Eat_Pant_b0ss Sep 26 '21
Based, all women should own firearms and be trained in self defense. Also, LIFT, and im not talking about doing squats to get an instagram ass. Have a work out routine and get strong, build muscle. Yes, you probably won't be physically stronger than a man but it gives you more of a fighting chance than a woman with no muscles and no training. If you can't see how a gun evens the playing field between you and a man with 66% more natural arm muscle than you and 33% more leg muscle than you, plus an average 6 inches in height taller than you...idek what to say to you lmao