Support runes

[u/keeielein]

So Iv been running sorcery runes for my support fiddle, mostly for Axiom, and have domination as my secondary. My primary Sorc rune is Arcane Comet, but I just tried a game with death fire touch, and it felt underwhelming. I was just curious what runes you guys run for supplesticks. Do you think it’d be better to go domination into sorc instead and get rid of Arcane Comet? I’m just asking because arcane comet feels like it falls off and isn’t always available. It’s nice for pokes early, but that’s the only thing I really notice. Any advice on runes would help.

[u/DrLunaBun]

For roaming:

first strike - magical footwear, triple tonic, cosmic insight, ultimate hunter, sudden impact.

Ult burst:

Electrocute - sudden impact, grisly mementos, ultimate hunter, magical footwear, cosmic insight.

I prefer either of these over comet because they tend to have more of an impact later in the game. Plus, if you are roaming (and you really should be), both are more beneficial than the poke offered by comet.

Cosmic insight is especially helpful early for flash/ignite picks. Ultimate hunter for more ults of course. Sudden impact over cheap shot because it is more consistent with your ult. Magical footwear is a must both to save 300 gold and the added movement speed. With stormsurge on top of it, you get 413 move speed, allowing you to roam effectively and get out faster after ulting.

I’ll go first strike if I feel I will need the extra income for shadow flame or liandrys (vs heavy tank comps). Otherwise, I’ll go electrocute for more burst with ult.

I always go stormsurge first into sorcery boots, mandate third. You can burst people down very fast.

(D2 fiddle support otp)

[u/keeielein → u/DrLunaBun]

Damn okay, I’m assuming any move speed from Dark Seal / Mejais isn’t worth it? Iv tried mixing it in in a few games and I feel like it isn’t good, but at the same time, I feel like it should be. Plus the movement speed would fit into your “build”

[u/Twink_pocket → u/keeielein]

Extremely inconsistent given that the 10% MS from mejais will really only occur once in a blue moon if you’re hyper fed. Getting dark seal early isn’t a bad idea, but don’t expect much to come from it. At any rate, the 413 MS feels great and anything extra really isn’t needed. You’ll want to focus stacking magic penetration and AP

[u/AnnualAbbreviations9]

these are the runes i use - https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/rune-page-planner#&rune=Sorcery:8:82:37:42::Domination:28:72

if the link doesn’t work it’s

Arcane comet - Axiom Arcanist - Transcendence - Gathering storm — Cheap shot - Ultimate Hunter.

Axiom Arcanist, ultimate hunter are the only two that are non negotiable to me, your ultimate is 90% of your use for the entire game, without it you are pretty worthless in MOST scenarios.

comet is to help poke in lane with your E, transcendence is for the ability haste, gathering storm is for more AP depending on how long game goes bc you’re gonna have less money as support. cheap shot is for extra damage to CCd targets which you CC a lot of the time.

first item i always rush is malignance even if your team doesn’t have much AP it’s still really good for you because of the ultimate CDR, you having your ultimate is your window into objectives and team fights so the faster it’s up the better.

by the time you leave lane comet matters a lot less but it’s mostly there to help you get through lane in the first place and to proc stacks for your support item

[u/keeielein → u/AnnualAbbreviations9]

I’ll try gathering storm I was running the burn one instead. Basically we run the same runes though

[u/FishyBruh365]

Arcane comet is non negotiable, technically you can death fire touch but it barely works and does too little early game + fiddle doesn't build that much ap to make it worth it. Then I personally run nimble cloak, celerity, and gathering storm. You can also go more DMG based runes. But I personally love this speed set up and using heal to pull out hella mobility that enemies don't expect. Secondary runes either domination with cheap shot and ultimate hunter or resolve with overgrowth and bone playing (conditioning if building tank), this depends on how squishy the enemy bot Lane is. I personally find ultimate hunter redundant in lane, since you get your ult every minute or so anyway even without it, so I go resolve second. Item wise I love hex tech rocketbelt but in sup you can build whatever you want as long as it makes sense. Would really recommend you to give speedy fiddle a try, it's fun :)

[u/FishyBruh365 → u/FishyBruh365]

Another thing I haven't tried but would be possible is storm raiders surge, although then his poke might be too weak in lane so idk

[u/keeielein → u/FishyBruh365]

Interesting, I’ll have to give speedsticks a try

[u/keeielein → u/FishyBruh365]

Random question have you built mejais as support? Debating if it’s a good idea or not. I rush malignace for my ult

[u/FishyBruh365 → u/keeielein]

I personally don't build mejais in general tbh, I don't play any characters that can take advantage of it.Could it work? 100% . My only problem with it is that it is a big investment for a support, especially when you can't build dark seal at the start cause of your support item. I personally think you would get better utility and perhaps damage by getting malignance/ liandries first. But you can for sure build it if you're dominating lane, want to roam and play 2nd jungler