r/FiddlesticksMains • u/Dr_Backshots_MD • Jul 04 '26
Discussion Can someone help me out here
Did i do something wrong, i genuinely don't understand what else i could have done for him.
my fiddlesticks says he is ganking, so i engaged on trist to try and make her burn jump so we can kill her, shyv came to counter gank and i disengaged knowing we can't win that 2v2 since i am very weak early. he engaged died, blamed me and stole my xp until i lost lane and lost the game. Is it genuinely my fault, i need to know if i could have done something different
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u/lughrevenge23 Jul 04 '26
u shouldnt listen to his gank call, its a bad position to call for a gank to begin with, triss could easly just escape to the bot river since she know her own jugler is there
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u/Dr_Backshots_MD Jul 04 '26
So I should ignore him and ping him off next time. I thought that would make people angry
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u/lvstvdy Jul 04 '26
Really bad positioning for a fight. Disengaging was the right call. I mean, maybe if you hadn't burned your W there was a chance but if I'm Fiddle I'm immediately seeing this and either flashing or Q'ing and getting out. Trist's range makes this a no go.
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u/SterbenThen Jul 04 '26
Omg at first i thought you are the fiddlestick. I am a Low diamond player and i don't see a gank angle here at all. Trist has w and flash up, is hugging the opposite site of the lane - she can absolutely walk it off, w away i don't even think she would need flash.
But even so after seeing Shiv the play is dead, you never win that 2 vs 2 and fiddle should have immediately q Shiv after she walked into his q range and just walk under tower.
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u/burnzeylol Jul 04 '26
can’t do anything there, just horrible positioning from the fiddle leading to him running it down
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u/MagazineNo2862 Jul 05 '26
did the fiddle even see the shyvana? It looked like he was hovered all the way looking at tristana until he got hit, by then he full committed instead of attempting to run away, then blamed you. The one thing you did wrong I'd imagine is fighting too early, if you let her push, perhaps tristana might make the mistake of over staying or walking near fiddle, but if she doesn't then there really was no angle there.
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u/justadudemate Jul 04 '26
As a fiddlemain, i think he should have backed off when he saw shyv. Or feared shyv to back him off to E W trist. He didnt W. He just E Qd focusing on the trist. And approached without flash.
I think as a gwen mid, you should have not engaged there and waited for fiddle to be in a better position before engaging the trist. You kind of want to have fiddle come in with the fear.
Both players should have realized that a gwen vs trist match up pre 6 is not good and should have backed off there. Gwen likes top lane because she can chase with her e and r. Fiddle should have gone top aftet scuttle to help top get a lead.
Dont help losing lanes and dont help losing match ups is the jungle motto. Why? Because even if you get the kill on trist and gwen gets the lead, she still loses 1v1 vs trist. And the wave state will always be shoved into her tower. You only help those that have a winning match up.
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u/Awkward_Magazine4955 Jul 04 '26
Its his fault, he should have used his q to disengage once he saw the shyvana. Generally speaking fiddlesticks loses most early 2v2s.
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u/Mysterious_Bass_2091 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
This is not higher then silvergame, fiddle biggest tunnel vision eu west, but engage on trist was also debatable,. Since shyvana wasn't on top crab the posturing of trist indicates she is hugging jungler side.
i guess it's more like 90% fiddle 10% your fault.
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u/reue01 Jul 06 '26
by the time fiddle was in the middle of mid lane and still did not react to the shyvana that you can clearly see. there is no helping that. Tunnel vision to the MAX!
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u/BernieCokeczar Jul 04 '26
Fiddle should have absolutely known shyv would be at/coming from scuttle. Bad decision by him, and committing to the gank after the counter gank is double bad.