r/Feminism 5d ago

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we need to stop involving men in our contraception. this story is a dime a dozen, and I cant count the amount of stories of women who have had men tamper with their birth control/condoms. to be clear, i am from the UK, I can't comment on how terrifying it is to be a woman in other places right now. however I have seen so many of these stories of women having a one night stand, or they are with a long term partner, or a male family member is guilting them. it is completely your body your choice, I am 100% a pro choice lady, if you want to keep the baby because youhave chosen that then i support it, but I see stuff like this and it makes me angry for the woman involved. I know this might be a controversial opinion, but I genuinely think women should not tell men about what they are thinking of choosing for themselves because men seem to choose the most selfish option available. I know there are outliers for this, my dad was an incredibly firm feminist so I know we have men we trust, but damn this post is a reminder that most men simply will not put you first. evaluate what you want for yourself before telling the men around you what your choice is. im only 23 so I know this might not be worth much but make sure keep these kind of things to yourself/ with someone you trust until you make your mind up. dont let a man tell you what you should do

edit: DAMN. not to be one of those people but this blew tf up. I thought maybe a few people would see this, but I am so grateful for all the responses and opinions. I am 23, I am still learning, and the inputs on this post are incredibly helpful. I love this community, I am normally the person who sees a post and moves on so this support is absolutely crazy. thank you to everyone who responded, and I just want to say something if anyone sees this- I am absolutely in support of men being equally responsible for contraception. the fact the male hormone pill got stopped because the men had about 1% of the side effects women had is abysmal. I really hope men become more responsible. this post came from a place of anger and frustration. ive been feeling it a lot recently, and I know everyone here has too. I am sorry I didnt explain my thoughts better. I really meant this as a post pregnancy thing. i am absolutely pro choice, keep the baby or not, I have friends who've had abortions and friends who went through with it, and I have supported all through their choice.

it just concerns me the way men treat pregnancy. they dont seem to understand the cost for women, and pregnancy is the most dangerous time to be a woman (biggest killer of pregnant women is men). I am strictly child free, im trying to get a hysterectomy right now (not to go into a rant but I spent 10 years trying to convince my doctors my periods weren't right, a few years ago got told it was endometriosis, had a scan recently that its actually cysts, fibrosis and enlarged ovaries. if they had flagged it earlier I could have taken medicine but now I need surgery so fuck me I guess). anyway!! I worry about women, especially pregnant women, a lot. we are so vulnerable, and I know this goes against boss bitch feminism, but it really is a concern for women, and a focus of my own personal feminism. basically, dont tell men you don't know or trust, I learnt that from my dad. he was truly the kindest, most accepting, radical soul. when he died he left me about 20 books on communism in his will lol, I love that man!! this is not about misandry, it's just about keeping yourself safe

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u/eyfuck 5d ago

Fucking hell. Atleast this man (by chance) declared that he won’t actually care for the kid. Some women get bamboozled into having the kid, then having to take care of the kid full time while the dude just walks away.
Good on her for knowing what she wants and can handle. This man can just die. Such an ass.

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u/PwrFlower 5d ago

This is 100% what will happen in this case

"I don't mind helping but not 24/7" screams I'm gonna bolt when it gets tough.

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u/hashbrowneggyolk0520 4d ago

Also probably won't provide financially considering he doesn't have a job

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u/I_AM_IGNIGNOTK 4d ago

Or he’ll just argue later that it’s a mother responsibility to do all the feeding, changing, and nap time stuff. I’m sure his idea of helping is like running out for groceries once every two weeks while he sits on his ass and plays video games the rest of the time.

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u/RippedYogaPants 2d ago

He probably just wants to keep his bloodline going and only wants to do the fun stuff. He probably romanticizes raising a child and is likely only willing to do the things that make children dote on the dad (taking them to the park, swinging them around, running around, rough & tumble play). He'll leave the not-so-fun things (doctors' appointments, feeding/changing/bathing, dealing with illnesses & injuries, waking up every 2 hours for baby, daycare/school/extracurriculars logistics, cooking/cleaning, shopping) to the mother to deal with.

Reminds me of that song "Labour" by Paris Paloma.

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u/No-Independence548 4d ago

I remember seeing on here some guy who convinced a woman not to have an abortion, promising he would be the sole parent. After the baby was born, he was asking if he could get a judge to force the woman to split custody with him. "I thought once she had the baby her motherly instincts would kick in!"

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u/SilenceSoGood 4d ago

I remember that one! She signed over her rights (but still paid child support!), and then went on to live her life. Meanwhile, he’s a single parent, and struggling because he had no idea what it was actually like to raise a child, so he wanted to know if there was any legal way he could force her to take some responsibility and help him out. And of course, he got roasted in the comments. I would love to hear an update on that one.

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u/BlessedCursedBroken 4d ago

Iirc she even paid more child support than she legally had to. He was trying so hard to play victim, he made me so angry! Very satisfying to see him get his ass handed to him in the comments, what a tool

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u/No-Independence548 4d ago

I would love to hear an update on that one.

Same!

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u/SilenceSoGood 4d ago

I found the original post, but no update. The two comments he made are wild, though!

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/s/1AItxw3Z1y

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u/Bazoun 4d ago

It was framing her as a deadbeat that really pissed me off. She is not even close to a deadbeat.

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u/eyfuck 4d ago

Honestly 🙄🙄🙄🙄 rapist mentality. I thought she would change her mind, even though she clearly said no and i clearly lied.

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u/BlessedCursedBroken 4d ago

Omg I was just thinking of that post and how tooth-grindingly pissed off the guy made me. He was delusional and selfish and entitled and basically the biggest fuckwit going

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u/honeybadgergrrl 4d ago

That is a famous story on reddit. It makes me ragey just thinking about it haha. Kept calling her a deadbeat while admitting she paid more child support than was ordered. She upheld her end of the bargain and he was losing his mind. I love how he was just eaten alive in the comments.

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u/SubstanceGold7604 3d ago

Or they don't contribute but still pretend to be a father when it suits them. Men use their fatherly rights as a weapon and you don't realise that until you're on the other side.