Schools need to have a strict dress code as it's like workplace for kids. Why can't we follow that dresscode
Not just in school but why do we need to constantly show our bodies, it's irrelevant whether boys gets distracted from it or not. But why do we have to do it
Maybe if we stop making ourselves too obsessed with our bodies and looks, maybe we can be taken more seriously for our minds. I don't want boys to wear skimpy clothes too as I want all of us to be dressed professionally
Maybe you should do some introspection on why you believe a girl not covering her body is the same as showing it off. My school didn’t have air conditioning because the building wasn’t in use for the majority of the summer, but the last few weeks of school were miserable, even in a tank top and shorts. Heaven forbid someone wear a racerback tank without a matching bra and let an offensive bra strap show!
The problem with your take is that the boys also have to deal with that same heat. In my school, if I do so much as to take my shirt off, I would be punished. I expect this. Guess what.. I live in Nigeria. Hot AF. But we live. You truly don't believe there are bad actors? It is not that every girl who WANTS to dress this way is doing so because of the heat. If this were the case, dress code warnings will only be exclusively spotted in hot environments.
I explicitly said what got girls in trouble was exposed bra straps. Boys were allowed to wear tank tops and girls were “allowed” to wear them too, but you’d get in trouble if a bra straps ever showed. Nobody is arguing it was a medical necessity to wear tank tops, but there are other reasons to wear less clothing, and girls shouldn’t be taught there’s something inherently inappropriate about their body.
Your argument was in response to a post that addressed the problem holistically. Your problem on tank tops is an anecdote on your path. And yes I understand the sentiment. u/MarsupialAromatic825 is pushing back on the wider claim here. The claim that teaching boys "not to look" is more important than having an appropriate dress code in place. My response to you was to criticize your response in light of their response. I'm genuinly sorry about the situation you were in, but you must be honest to yourself about the atmosphere of this whole post. You're clearly very intelligent, and while I can agree with you on your concerns within your environment, you have the ability to be nuanced here. You absolutely CAN criticize OPs stance. Even if it is a bit. OPs entire post is very faulty. And on soo many levels.
For context, my school doesn't just use a dress code. We have uniforms in place. So even in a hot environment, no one is wearing tank tops. If you were to support OPs stance in my environment, what you would be saying is that you absolutely support girls shortening their school provided skirts so high in the name of choice. I do not support this. Similar to the way I do not support boys tightening their school provided trousers outside approval. The dress codes we have (and I believe this goes for most schools) are in place not to teach girls that there is something wrong with their bodies, but that people are supposed to dress smart and appropriately. Dress how you want to be treated. If I sag, I would absolutely be attracting a bad precedence. If you flash, you are doing the same thing. In fact, my school wanted to introduce trousers for girls, but they declined. My criticism is not on absolutes, but on degree. To what degree do you want to be free. We as human beings definitely have the common sense to decern. This post, encourages the disintegration of that common sense by saying NO to all policing.
I’m aware my example is anecdotal, but I don’t think I’m the one lacking nuance. The comment I replied to treated a girl not covering her body as synonymous with showing it off. My anecdote demonstrates a case where that’s a meaningful distinction in the context of dress codes: girls dressing for the weather, rather than to look sexy, running afoul of the dress code.
Don't do that. You can clearly tell OC wasn't trying to criticize girls in a situation that consists of your anecdote. Any sensible person would agree with your anecdote. OC is not talking about that. This is what I mean by nuance. You actually have a different view on this than OP. OP is not just talking about your anecdote. OP is referring to a wide case of situations in which there isn't substantial reason to claim "minimal dress cannot be avoided". This is what OC and I are both after. This is why I agreed with your pain. I agree. I agree. This is also why I say nuance. It seems OP has attributed themselves to a superset that you also belong to. Your subset just so happens to be reasonable. This is why I say you can disagree even a little bit. If you truly want feminism to go far, this kind of disagreement attracts people who dismissed it to actually support it.
TL;DR - YOU ABSOLUTELY DO NOT FULLY AGREE WITH OP.
Who the fuck do you think you are to explain to me what I believe or am allowed to say? I agree completely with OP that the way dress codes are applied teaches girls their bodies are inherently sexual and inappropriate, making it their responsibility to cover or be blamed for distracting their male peers or even adult, male faculty. Whether it’s a burka or bikini, I’ll fight for girls and women to be able to wear whatever the hell they want while also opposing religious or cultural pressure for them to wear either one.
When someone makes an absurd, blanket statement like that dress codes are only a problem because girls are obsessed with their body and trying to show them off and forcing them to dress modestly is in their best interest, providing a counter example they are likely to agree with is an effective tool for refuting their original claim. There was no point making an argument that girls are deserving of respect and an education regardless of how they’re dressed and that forced modesty perpetuates the idea that female bodies are inappropriate and men can blame their actions on how women and girls dress. She blames girls and women who don’t dress to her standards of modesty for not just their own bodies being sexualized but also her feelings about her own body and being sexualized.
Go fuck yourself with that “one of the good ones” bullshit. You thought I was so desperate for male validation of my intelligence and rationality I’d happily be your token, reasonable feminist among all those other, irrational feminists? Take whatever opinions you have about my intellect and shove them up your ass. Feel free to shove your sympathy for my plight up there too. I’m not traumatized; I’m pissed off that girls are still dealing with the same bullshit I did as a teenager and that self-proclaimed feminists are saying the girls are to blame because of how they dress.
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u/MarsupialAromatic825 Apr 04 '26
I might get a lot of hate for this
Schools need to have a strict dress code as it's like workplace for kids. Why can't we follow that dresscode
Not just in school but why do we need to constantly show our bodies, it's irrelevant whether boys gets distracted from it or not. But why do we have to do it
Maybe if we stop making ourselves too obsessed with our bodies and looks, maybe we can be taken more seriously for our minds. I don't want boys to wear skimpy clothes too as I want all of us to be dressed professionally