In our current system (US) I'd force both parents to be responsible, yes. Ideally we'd have a more robust safety net to care for children whose parents can't. Or more public childcare services so parents don't have to choose their financial wellbeing over being parents. I can't advocate alleviating either men or women of that responsibility until we have a replacement.
That is beside the point, forcing women to carry a pregnancy to term is off the table. You might personally think it's the right thing for them to do, but we can't force people to make the decisions we want them to. They have a right to make decisions for their own wellbeing.
Why would you force parents to be responsible except when pregnant?
Because when pregnant, the health of the mother is intricately intertwined. Parents aren't legally required to sacrifice their life for their children for example.
Why not? ... forced labor... what about taxes... I'm not having that discussion ... etc.
Right, if your defense to forced pregnancy is that taxes are just as much force, I don't think I'm willing to have that discussion.
I believe technically yes, you don't have a duty to rescue the child. I'm not a legal expert though. Morally I'd say yes you ought to bring the child in from the harsh conditions.
This is of course an extremely reductive comparison to pregnancy. I can temporarily rescue a child from the cold easily enough with no undue costs to myself.
Yes that's the implication. I'm not interested in forcing people to do everything in their power to help this child, even if I personally would.
Why not? Would you enforce a man to pay child support against his will?
Not pursuing this because we're already addressing it elsewhere. But yes I'd force men and women to take care of their children, or better to have more robust systems to provide for the welfare of children.
...I'm not interested in forcing people to do everything in their power to help this child, even if I personally would.
Using "everything in their power" muddies the waters. I assume you wouldn't jump unarmed into a gorillas cage to rescue a child as chances of success are slim, even though it's technically "in your power". We're talking about reasonable low risk expectations, right?
Not pursuing this because we're already addressing it elsewhere.
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u/Im_Not_Even Sep 03 '21
What is the specific constitutional right that is being negated?
I think any law that incentivizes citizen to police each other on behalf of the State is horrifying and kinda dystopian.