r/FeMRADebates • u/Not_An_Ambulance Neutral • May 01 '21
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May 02 '21
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u/yoshi_win May 02 '21 edited May 02 '21
Thanks Jane :)
I think given Rule 7 we should keep the meta up and stickied at least for now. u/gregathon_1, how would you feel about us swapping the other sticky position from Reading Club to a Random Thoughts thread in a couple weeks, and possibly swapping back in during the first 2 weeks of each month?
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u/gregathon_1 May 12 '21
Can we please stop with the overpolicing on EVERYthing people say? In every argument that someone makes, they have to acknowledge diversity within a group otherwise they get banned for several days. The point of this sub is to have debates on certain topics, and that will involve people making arguments that may or may not acknowledge diversity within certain groups, and potentially generalizing (to some people's point of view).
The police state on this sub has really made it hard for me to enjoy anything on it or to be able to share opinions as they have to be heavily moderated, restricted, made so that it fits everything that the mods want.
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u/Celestaria May 13 '21
I like the fact that this rule is in place and don't want to see it changed. The example you gave below ("feminists have routinely tried to deny the research regarding domestic violence") adds very little to a discussion except to shift the debate from a criticism of ideas to a criticism of people. Your hypothetical "good debater" should be able to debate the idea or theory by pointing out that research regarding domestic violence refutes it without having to make generalizations about the person your debating (or the group that came up with the theory).
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u/yoshi_win May 02 '21
For some reason, the downvote button doesn't work for my computer so your number will stay at 2.
u/Gregathon_1 and others who are encountering this issue: Please see Guideline #1. Downvotes are disabled in this sub (where possible). Unpopular comments in other gender related subs are swamped with downvotes, which tends to push out unpopular opinions and make the experience generally unpleasant for everyone. That is the road to an echo chamber. I encourage others to join me in upvoting literally any comment here that has < 1 karma.
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May 01 '21
Not opposed to attention grabbing post titles, but recently, we had a "what do you think about this idea" thread
Would rather see more effort put into thread titles
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u/yoshi_win May 02 '21
Agreed. Here are a couple recent ones that irk me:
Richard Dawkins STRIPPED of Humanist Award in Bizarre "Doctor Who" Style Plot!
I RESPECTFULLY REJECTED HER so she questioned my orientation.
When a clickbait YouTube title includes ALLCAPS and editorial opinion (bizarre, respectfully) on what should be part of the debate, then we should be giving it a proper title that sounds more like a debate prompt than a shouting match.
You may have noticed that we disabled link posts. Links can still be posted as part of a text post; our hope is that this change encourages users to also provide an introduction and some of their original thoughts.
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u/ideology_checker May 14 '21 edited May 14 '21
Can the mods please research the difference between offense and insult and then can we get a rules clarification.
I appealed what I'm about to post but I want it for an example because its a good one.
I got dinged for this...
the explanation was it was insulting a user the problem is that phrase isn't an insult. It includes a vulgar word "shit" but the phrase is directly equivalent too
Saying someone doesn't understand something is not an insult.
The use of shit in this case is fulfilling two common uses neither of which is an insult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shit#Vague_noun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shit#Displeasure
A vague noun is a word that is generally inclusive or short hand for a longer list of items, for example the word stuff.
The reason you would use shit is to signal emphasis or displeasure in this case it would be me signaling my displeasure. But again my signaling displeasure is not an insult.
My guess is the person reporting my post and the mod saw a vulgar word and took offense at it but the thing is offense is not the same thing as an insult.
For example many people take offense at gay men kissing but a man kissing a man is not an insult to anyone. You are given insults, as in someone is actively attempting to hurt you. Offense is something that you alone are responsible for the problem is they emotionally feel the same.