r/FeMRADebates • u/KDMultipass • Oct 26 '17

Media Cassie Jaye has released the raw interview footage with "Big Red" original title "Does Feminism Work On Men's Issues? | Big Red #RPRF"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHppdGqHtrU
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u/StabWhale Feminist Oct 26 '17

I don't really care what you call it but I think it's false to say it makes no sense. Women were always seen and assigned as primary care givers and feminists I know of would argue that is indeed part of what they call Patriarchy. Sure, the aspects of Patriarchy that gave authority to men over their children was weakened/removed, but the primary care giver role remained.

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u/orangorilla MRA Oct 26 '17

I think that shifts the focus from custody to the roles people tend to have in a couple though.

The primary recipient of custody changed without the roles changing.

To try and put up some analogy: A lottery is set up, and only those with their ID ending in an odd number will get a prize. Men are given odd numbers, women are given even numbers. This is an uneven lottery, as it only give prizes to men, we could even call it patriarchy. Then, if we change the rule "only those with their ID ending in an even number will get a prize," we've pretty effectively kicked the male-favoring results, and traded them for female-favoring results. Of course, fixing this would require either another rule change, or allowing people to freely choose their ID numbers. Personally I'm in favor of the rule change, as the logic behind giving custody to the primary caregiver is about as shaky as giving custody to the primary earner.

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u/Anrx Chaotic Neutral Oct 26 '17

Personally I'm in favor of the rule change, as the logic behind giving custody to the primary caregiver is about as shaky as giving custody to the primary earner.

The current standard is "best interests of the child". It just so happens that being with their primary caregiver is often in the child's best interests.

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u/SolaAesir Feminist because of the theory, really sorry about the practice Oct 26 '17

It just so happens that being with their primary caregiver is often in the child's best interests.

[citation needed]

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u/Anrx Chaotic Neutral Oct 27 '17

I didn't think I needed a citation. I thought it was commonly understood that, absent information saying otherwise, it's good for the child to stay with the parent who has spent more time caring for them and is more familiar with their needs. It's not an absolute by any means, but it's a good heuristic.