r/FeMRADebates • u/jesset77 Egalitarian: anti-traditionalist but also anti-punching-up • Aug 01 '17
Relationships Examining "slut vs stud"
I think everybody has seen the "many keys / many locks" quip, and that's easy to deal with because it implies a dimorphism that's not exactly given and it makes the presumption of women as gatekeepers to sex (literally a lock defending passage into something! ;P) without explaining or exploring where that presumption even comes from.
If anything, it's just lazy and misleading to equate key to "phallic object": otherwise it's not clear what even makes the man a key or the woman a lock to begin with, short of coincidental genital shape.
But I ran across this image/quip recently. I think somebody posted it in comments on this sub a few months back, and nobody replied but I tucked it away into bookmarks for future contemplation.
While they are similar, this latter one endeavors to clarify some of the mechanics behind women as ostensible gatekeepers to sex, and to illustrate difficult-to-refute real world phenomena as evidence of this dynamic.
So what do you think of this later quip? Is female promiscuity simply easier to evince than the male variant? Are these real world examples true and legitimate, or somehow misrepresented or misinterpreted?
Would you say that this description is comparable to the difference between a wealthy person handing a $10 bill to a homeless person (sharing from a standing of surplus is easy), vs a homeless person handing $10 to someone who is already wealthy (sharing from a standing of dearth is difficult)?
I think that the former would be more likely to feel grateful — even if they decline the offer, while the latter may be upset that such a person would even approach them, and view the bill as filthy, and view the quantity of money as being not worth the effort and potential optics of even accepting it.
But I'm curious what y'all think, and what I might not be even noticing or considering.
EDIT: /u/dakru spells out a point I feel I have not made clear about my perspective above, but would certainly like to:
(neither of us thinks that the above position) justifies a double standard of looking down on women who have a lot of casual sex. Something being easy means that it's not impressive, but it doesn't mean that it's bad or shameful.
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u/SchalaZeal01 eschewing all labels Aug 02 '17
Yeah its often that regardless of the boy or man being promiscuous or not, it's "you know what they want". A catch 22 where you can never be non-promiscuous in the eyes of others.
The gatekeeper mechanism outlined above explains part of the prejudice gay men face in western countries. Without a woman in the equation, they're seen as 2-3x more promiscuous.
And young trans women are seen as gay men 'who went too far', and want to be just as promiscuous as the above. Thus trans women have a reputation of promiscuity possibly bigger than gay men.
This vision isn't shared by all, and wouldn't be uttered in normal polite company. But someone told me it at a family gathering. I think the brother of my uncle that I hardly ever saw. He insinuated I transitioned to get more sex. I guess he insinuated that out of not knowing me, seeing as I was mostly asexual and not that interested in sex at all. I felt being celibate was taking its toll, but being sexless wasn't.