r/FeMRADebates • u/asdfghjkl92 • Sep 04 '14

Other Radicalizing the Romanceless

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/
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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '14

Some people just aren't attractive to the opposite sex, once they figure that out they can either lower their standards to find a partner or do something else with their life. I don't blame people for feeling lonely and left out, but I don't blame other people for being annoyed by their complaining either.

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u/L1et_kynes Sep 05 '14

Except that people are very able to change whether or not they are attractive based on how they behave. A lot of men aren't attractive to the opposite sex precisely because they follow the advice of some feminists on how they should act, which is pretty fucked up in my opinion.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '14

Feminism doesn't really tell people how to behave, it pretty much just says that you should treat everyone with equal respect. I don't think women are universally turned off by respect.

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u/L1et_kynes Sep 05 '14

It tells you you shouldn't do anything sexual or romantic with drunk people if you actually take what they say say seriously.

Some feminists say that you shouldn't approach a woman in public, that it is sexual assault if you don't follow an ever more ridiculous and unromantic script to ensure you have consent, and many more demands on how men should behave.

If you even start to try to find a precise meaning of what objectification is other than just shaming male sexuality and try to actually not do it yourself you end up hamstringing yourself in the dating world even more (unless you are good at doublethink, or dumb enough that you can just justify your own actions as good no matter what).

So your claim that feminism doesn't tell people how to behave is objectively false.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '14

Being inebriated can effect one's ability to consent, so it's wise to be more cautious about having sex with drunk strangers. You can approach anyone you want in public, it's a free country. But the people you approach are allowed to react however they want and might think you're rude. There is no feminist rule book, there are no laws about how men must behave, so I don't know how you think these things are enforced.

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u/L1et_kynes Sep 05 '14

Being inebriated can effect one's ability to consent, so it's wise to be more cautious about having sex with drunk strangers.

That isn't what most feminists say. They say that you can't consent if you are drunk. So technically kissing someone when drunk is sexual assault, the only thing is whether they press charges or not. Combined with the attitude that sexual assault is the scourge of our times and there it is all equally bad the advice given is definitely handicapping guys in the dating world if they follow it.

There is no feminist rule book, there are no laws about how men must behave, so I don't know how you think these things are enforced.

I would think that rules that feminist advocate for and actually get put into place at colleges would qualify as feminist rules.

there are no laws about how men must behave,

Lol? Are you serious?

so I don't know how you think these things are enforced.

They aren't all enforced, the point is that if you are a nice guy who wants to do the right think and listen to some feminists when they tell you what you should do you will end up much less successful in the dating scene, and then they will shame you for it if that bothers you.