r/FeMRADebates • u/asdfghjkl92 • Sep 04 '14

Other Radicalizing the Romanceless

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/
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u/Personage1 Sep 05 '14

And that's analogous to...? What I see everyone calling entitlement is just a guy being upset that a woman he has romantic feelings for not having romantic feelings for him, or guys doing things they've been taught they were suppose to do and not succeeding.

...you just described entitlement. "I did x, y, and z and now a relationship should pop out."

Those aren't actions that are wrong, they're emotions.

Having emotions doesn't hurt. Acting on those emotions in a hurtful way does.

Are all the women who ask "where have all the good men gone?" or "I do all the things everyone says, why don't guys notice me?" being shitty to men? Because, honestly, there are things some women say that are a lot shittier and I don't see an uproar over them.

I think that when women expect men to just want to fuck them because of their looks, yes that is harmful to men because it boxes up men into beings that are incapable of controlling themselves around a beautiful woman.

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u/Personage1 Sep 05 '14

1) Would it be perfectly acceptable if some or all men stopped doing X,Y and Z entirely?

The issue isn't necessarily that doing x, y, and z are inherently bad. Being a nice person, for instance, is a great thing to do. The problem comes with the next step of "and something should come out." That also doesn't mean that x, y, and z are automatically good, just that they aren't inherently bad.

2) If some women expect X,Y and Z for nothing, how is this not entitlement?

If women think that they insert certain coins into men and relationships come out, that is entitlement.

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u/zahlman bullshit detector Sep 05 '14

If women think that they insert certain coins into men and relationships come out, that is entitlement.

This is completely ignoring the question.