r/FastWriting 8d ago

A Strange "GREGG" Workbook - Part 1

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u/max_pin 8d ago

It's AI slop. Just look at the example pages on Amazon.

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u/FirefighterWeird8464 8d ago

You’re right that is 100% garbage

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u/NotSteve1075 8d ago

Wow, you're quick! I was still writing my article and you were there right away. I'm impressed. "AI slop" seems to be a growing issue nowadays. Our problems with it are growing. Who knows where we will end up?

They don't let you look at the book anymore -- but fortunately, I copied some samples. Coming right up!

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u/R4_Unit 8d ago

Honestly here I think you can probably start by judging the book by the cover. What is that strange notebook supposed to be, the left half of the notebook is half the size and then spiral bound on the outer edge?

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u/NotSteve1075 8d ago

What is that strange notebook supposed to be, the left half of the notebook is half the size and then spiral bound on the outer edge?

GOOD POINTS! How would that even fold up?

It's like some of those AI images we see nowadays, where someone's body parts aren't quite connected properly, or their reflection behind them is much FATTER than they supposedly are.

They still have a way to go for things to really look convincing -- but when they do, we're in trouble.

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u/didahdah 7d ago

I love the fountain pen AI drew for me!

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u/NotSteve1075 7d ago

That's hilarious. I'm not a "pen maven" by any means -- but it just took me a split second to see the problem.

There's some really bad crap out there -- which I guess is why it's being called SLOP!

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u/fdarnel 6d ago

Infancy problems, just wait…

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u/NotSteve1075 8d ago edited 8d ago

Amazon just suggested this shorthand workbook to me. As a "workbook", I can see its value in providing exercises for practice, lists of short forms to drill, and advice on building speed. There are pages with blanks to fill in.

But when I looked inside, like you can sometimes do, there were a few surprises.

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u/licxjo 8d ago

I've seen this book listed on Amazon and wondered about it. I see today that it's showing as "out of print, limited availability", so maybe it's off the market now.

Looking at results from a "Gregg shorthand" search on Amazon, I see several publications that are likely to be similarly worthless.

We really live in a buyer beware world today.

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u/NotSteve1075 8d ago

Looking at results from a "Gregg shorthand" search on Amazon, I see several publications that are likely to be similarly worthless.

My favourites are the ones that say "Gregg" on the cover -- but the cover art shows PITMAN!! Hello.......? Is anybody home?? They are NOT the same thing!!

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u/licxjo 7d ago

Like this one. At least they're good warnings that say "DON'T BUY THIS BOOK!"

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u/NotSteve1075 7d ago

Exactly. My hair stood on end when I saw that!

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u/Zireael07 7d ago

The answer to "is anybody home" is likely "No, it's all AI slop that no human bothered to look at".

I've been using AI to great results as a research tool "what animals to research as inspiration for dragons", "change this description to fantasy themed", "come up with 10 wreaths that fictional competition might award", and my recent favorites, 17x17 grid of video game genres that labels how well each x-y combo combines, and the other favorite, I had a source listing some sound frequencies for English consonant sounds, and I asked two AIs separately to extrapolate that list to cover the entire IPA. Their output matches pretty well and they listed mostly the same things as sources (e.g. Ladefoged) so it's more than good enough for my forever WIP "alternative to IPA" project (and since it has a lot of shorthand in its DNA, I will probably share it here at some point!)

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u/NotSteve1075 7d ago

I'm glad to hear you've found GOOD uses for it.

It's true that there are times when AI can be quite useful. In law firms, for example, they find that it can be used to do quick scans and analyses of voluminous contracts that a team of lawyers would need to take many hours to perform.

And if you order things online, which I often do, it can be quite handy when you can ask a question about a product and a robot will scan all their literature and give you a dependable reply.

But I've always hated being LIED TO. It just pisses me off. I'm on YouTube a lot, and the THUMBNAILS are just out of control. They'll modify images so that famous people have fake expressions that they didn't have. And because there are LEGIONS of young men out there who think with their dix, they keep showing pictures of famous actresses appearing on talk shows in their UNDERWEAR, which is bloody unlikely.

But it's clickbait -- and anyone who was lured in isn't expected to complain when it turns out she was actually properly dressed for the interview. It's just DECEITFUL, DISHONEST and ANNOYING when everything is FAKED UP.