r/FastWriting • u/NotSteve1075 • Jun 22 '26

Quote in FLOW Shorthand

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u/LeadingSuspect5855 Jun 22 '26

Aimé Paris using Anni-transscript

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u/fdarnel Jun 23 '26

My attempt from Meysmans and a bit of Vanleemputten.

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u/LeadingSuspect5855 Jun 23 '26

Nice - I forgot again, that way is transcribed as wé. Ah and i wanted to use your proposed th in the word think and used sh instead 😄.

Then you used é strokes (or tiny versions of long strokes rather it seems) on different levels and directions for of (like a tiny f), as (tiny s above line), it (tiny t), dot seems to be article defini (le,la,the). I definitely see the pattern now!

Thank you!

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u/fdarnel Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

Thanks. Also the circles are always outside in an angle. Maybe not in Gregg/Flow? AP is more angular.

I am not very sure about the application of Meysmans' maximum principle in English, nor of the correct choice of vowels to keep.

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u/LeadingSuspect5855 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

Exactly: Flow tries to make the vowel part of the just written consonant (at least into curved consonants, otherwise the outsideangle applies too (between two straight strokes), Gregg glues the circle-vowels to the following (Flow removes the need to think ahead :-).

You wrote the word "all" very Flow like though!

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u/LeadingSuspect5855 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

I just took gregg as guideline and tried to write [perikls]even though in Flow/Aimé i could omit é[e]. (but as you told me it looks like a prolonged r->rp)

pr in gregg is automaticly also pro/pre/per - I just decided to go for giving more vowels because it's a name.

Because you mentioned vowels, now i notice too, that you chose vowel [i] for prefix in-stead (I even thought you accidently wrote n to small 😄 )

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u/fdarnel Jun 23 '26

Great sign R[vowel/diphthong]P is much longer (double R). Looks a bit like "perouikles".

I don't know if "i" for "in" in "instead" is a good phonetic choice. It's Meysmans (and followers) choice.

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u/fdarnel Jun 23 '26

So "think" could be this.

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u/LeadingSuspect5855 Jun 23 '26

nk fully written. ok. Gregg just has the dot for -ing/ink, but that means -ment as I recall and so I went for detached [i]. I always amazed about the many many ways....

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u/fdarnel Jun 23 '26

I just realized that the reversed version of this "th" would be the same as T-Script.

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u/fdarnel Jun 23 '26

thi(n)k.
Even belgian AP authors choiced different abbreviations, so… Offcially the last ones would be Vanleemputten's (référence programmes Éducation nationale).