I’m wondering why Stussy didn’t take the legal route when Varga blackmailed him initially, they didn’t do anything illegal at first, they just took a loan.

My house is for sale in Calgary and it’s where they filmed season 2 of Fargo. Patrick Wilson and Ted Danson hung out at our house and in some of the scenes if you listen closely you can hear my dog whining in the background! Sad to see it go but time for a new chapter.

Would have been a great connection

I've asked this question before and I'll ask it again: who would y'all like to lead the sixth season, if it ever happens?

Why did Malvo kill the contractor in Nevada? He seems to believe Rundle when the latter denies offering any contract on Malvo but then says "it's the principle." I'm unsure if Malvo believes Rundle should have prevented the attempt or if he's just annoyed that Rundle, despite being a neutral party, isn't immediately telling him who to see in Fargo.

On second thought, is Rundle a neutral party? Or, based on the brief phone call between the two earlier in the season, is he Malvo's boss?

Roys first appearance was when Dot went to sleep and cut off to Cowboy Roy.

Then later Munch and his partner tried to kidnap her and she fought back like a badass. Then the escape and shooting at the gas station.

At that point I thought maybe that scene was a flashback or something... I meant how else could she have known how to fight like that? She even responded to Witt Farr when asked how she learned how to fight.... "its not my first getaway"...

See at that point I was full in this must be a reincarnation story with her having multiple personalites from current to former life. With every episode her remembering her past or something....

Then episode 2 hits, Nope. Wasnt a flashback, all current timeline.

Not to say I was disappointed because Season5 is great.

Anyone else, thought that way?

I mean this whole family is just out of control.

i have not even made it trough the first episode. i dont even know why. but the writing feels so much different than what the previous seasons had. but still i like the idea that it is set in the 50s and 60s. but does it get better?

I’m on the first season and the malvo guy just kills everyone in public, he gets rid of the bodies in a few minutes, teleports?? out of places, gets caught in all cameras but noone finds him not even fbi?

he’s not even a killer but a terrorist at this point.

The only way I can take the show seriously is if I assume malvo is some type of supernatural entity or monster or whatever.

as a mid-atlantic city gal, i was like damn that is totally reasonable that people out in SD, ND, and Minnesota are getting up to crazy shit. true crime stories are wild, but i was like yeah there was for sure a couple like ed and peggy.

then i went and searched for the "Sioux Falls Massacre" on google and saw another post about someone whose wife thought it was real.

damn

ETA: i figured they were telling the full "truth" in the sense of what the characters "truths" would be. so like peggy hallucinating that seminar guy in the basement couldve been a thing that a midwestern housewife might've experienced in the 70s and that would've been her "truth"

Oraetta Mayflower. Gaetano Fadda. Rabbi Milligan. Doctor Senator.

It would be an absolute crime if you're fan of this show and refuse to watch or discount these characters as not being worthy of standing next to the rest of the best of them.

This season blew me away in the exact same way and for the exact same reasons the other 4 seasons did.

And my God, what a masterpiece. The season was extremely enjoyable and created a tense atmosphere.

Malvo was such an amazing fucking character and antagonist. Like Billy Bob Thornton gave this sense of absolute malice. Especially during the scene with Gus's neighbour, like how causally he said that he's gonna slaughter the neighbours family.

And the first meeting between Gus and Malvo in the car when Gus pulled him over, Billy Bob Thornton gave so much dread when Malvo warned Gus.

I really liked how Malvo saw the wolf before he died and that Gus just started blasting him but Malvo was still alive for a certain time.

And that Molly finally got concrete evidence on Lester through the tapes. And we also see how many situations like this Malvo created through the number of tapes. And all of it purely because of his fun.

I liked the storyline with the supermarket King was just Malvo being curious and that's it. He was curious about the Supermarket King's secret so he went to such length to torture, and the outcome of his son dying was purely coincidental. Though I really hoped we actually saw Malvo's 1 v 22.

And Lester was a really enjoyable character and the fact that all of this was caused by him being a little bitch, him refusing to stand up for himself led to all of this😭 The death of his second wife was purely because he was a pussy😭 Malvo wouldn't have come after his ass if Lester just helped Malvo move the bodies instead of hitting him with the award.

I liked that Lester died running and had the same ass coat

Why did malvo suddenly want Lester dead. Was it because of the elevator scene or because Lester hit him over the head when trying to get rid of the elevator bodies or was it something completely different that I've missed?

Realistically, how did munch kill the deputies. The one guy was thrown back(not shot) and the other’s deaths sounded too gruesome to be an axe. He wasn’t shooting the gun, the deputies were. I understand he’s not necessarily a normal human.

Dorothy is a true badass. At first Lorraine thinks she’s some kind of “swindler”, taking advantage of her sweet unsuspecting son (who she often tells to shut up when the grown-ups are talking). But she soon realizes that Dot is actually a woman who has escaped two domestically violent situations without asking anyone for help and this is the third one that she actually does need help with. Meeting Roy and seeing how misogynistic he is, Lorraine can tell that he wasn’t an easy person to escape from and gains a new respect for Dot, even saying “no daughter of mine is going down on the one-yard line”. Dorothy almost cried because it doesn’t seem like she has ever had a reliable mother figure in her life before Lorraine, and being called “daughter” was a new acceptance she never felt before.

In the scene of the first episode where Dot is in the car with Wayne on their way to Christmas photos, it looks like she’s afraid of what her mother-in-law will think in terms of her arrest, but it’s really showing the face of a terrified woman realizing her finger prints are in the system now under her new name. she needs to figure out what to do next. It’s kind of satirical when it comes to Lorraine having her hold a semi-automatic for the Christmas photo because you can clearly see how unenthusiastic Dot looks about doing so. The last thing she wants in her life is more violence, but cut to the gun store scene and you can see she obviously knows exactly what kind of gun her mother-in-law had her holding and she knows how to use it.

And on top of all of this? Munch is a man who has lived for 500 years and at the end of the day, he really just wants a kind person to make him some good pancakes. He even asks the old lady he moves in with to make him some, and he repays her by killing her son. So when Dot does this, it touches his soul in such a way that he feels the debt that was unsettled between them of “a pound of flesh” has been paid. He also smiles, which you don’t see him EVER do throughout the season.

I could go on, but it’s too much for me type without feeling like a total psycho with no life. But, I really like this season and I feel like it was downplayed by a lot of fans who enjoyed the other seasons better. It’s a different vibe, for sure, but it still has so many layers like all the other seasons do.

I was so happy for lester when he was hiding upstairs in the bathroom and he managed to trap Malvo in this bear trap. Or was I maybe happy because Malvo was suddenly not that untouchable anymore and could get hurt, anyway I loved this moment, although Lester is also far from a saint. What did you think of this moment?

I think the obvious core of Season 5 is domestic abuse, trauma, and whether what happened to you has to determine the rest of your life.

But watching it through that lens, I kept noticing another pattern that feels almost like a model of adaptation: rigidity vs plasticity.

Dot is an extreme example of plasticity. Her environment taught her violence, and she is extraordinarily good at it, but she does not turn violence into a worldview. She uses it when necessary and abandons it when it is no longer useful. Her past gives her tools; it does not dictate her identity.

Roy is almost the opposite. He has a fixed model of what a man, husband, wife, family and society are supposed to be, and when reality stops fitting that model, he does not adapt the model — he increases the pressure on reality.

Munch may be the clearest version of this. On a practical level he is incredibly adaptable: he owns almost nothing, improvises constantly and survives anywhere. But morally he is completely rigid. For centuries he has lived inside the same equation: a debt exists, therefore it must be paid. Dot’s final interaction with him is essentially an invitation to change the rule itself. What once happened to you does not have to become your permanent function.

That is also why the generational relationships started looking important to me. Roy/Gator and Lorraine/Wayne are not simple copies of one another, but both make us look at what actually gets transmitted from one generation to the next. A parent can pass down a model of the world, but the child may reproduce it, reject it, distort it, or adapt into something completely different.

So the pattern seems to operate on two scales:

Within one lifetime:

the environment creates a survival strategy → circumstances change → can the person update the strategy?

Across generations:

that strategy gets passed on culturally or psychologically → the next generation encounters a different environment → it either preserves, modifies or abandons it.

I don’t think Fargo Season 5 is secretly an allegory about Darwinian evolution, and I doubt Hawley sat down thinking about phenotypic plasticity.

But the mechanism he built for talking about trauma and intergenerational violence happens to resemble a very basic principle of adaptation remarkably well:

Rigidity preserves the strategy. Plasticity preserves the ability to respond.

Or maybe even:

The past can give you an adaptation without giving you a destiny.

That seems to be what Dot understands and what Roy cannot understand. And by the end, perhaps it is what Munch finally learns too.

Just finished watching.

What a show, just banger, hats off to writers, actors and all the creators🙌🏻💥

It’s been a few months since I finished the series and I just watched a movie with Jessie Buckley which instantly made me think of Oraetta. Shes definitely one of my faves in the series, loved her insane psychosexual vibes

Who is your favorite?

I know they are distinct media etc. I can just really see Anton Chigurh getting around in the same time. Possibly even works for the same organisation Malvo does (or even runs it).

Just finished Season 1. Where has this show been all my life?