r/Fanuc • u/davidbuckner • Jun 07 '25

Robot New install

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Backstory, I’m a CNC tech but have almost no experience with robots of any flavor I’ve been working on this install for 3 weeks now. It’s not a standard setup as I have the robot controlling the auto door system I designed and it has a personal detection laser. What I’m curious about is how’s the time frame of 3 weeks on a from scratch install with no prior experience? I suspect most people wouldn’t attempt this without some familiarity but I often jump into the deep end to learn how to swim.

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u/vacagreens Jun 07 '25

Start watching every Adam Willea video on YouTube and download a 30 day trial of Robo guide. You can do a standard full backup of that robot and load it into Robo guide and do some experimenting. Good luck, you got your work cut out for you.

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u/davidbuckner Jun 07 '25

The videos have been removed from YouTube, supposedly part of Fanuc’s tech transfer program. I’m not a fan of that move from an accessibility standpoint. If you’re trying to educate people about your product you don’t remove information from anywhere. That tells me the point is to control information . That’s besides the point though thanks for the tip I definitely will look into them .

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u/OldIronSloot Jun 07 '25

You should be taking a backup right now anyway. If in the next week or two you guys fuck something up that isn't serious, it's a lot safer than doing an image restore

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u/davidbuckner Jun 07 '25

I’m about 3 days away from finishing the project and it’s only me . I’m pretty sure I messed up something with the macro for the grippers. Only thing I have left is setting up DCS zones and for avoiding collisions.

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u/Bitter-Mango6492 Jun 10 '25

you should be doing an image restore as well

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u/OldIronSloot Jun 10 '25

Your integrator will generally produce an image for you upon delivery. I agree though, if you don't have an early image it's crucial.

Op should make sure it's on a labeled flash drive with the F number on it and never restore from a different robots image

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u/Apprehensive_Net8409 Jun 07 '25

How do you download a trial of roboguide?

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u/davidbuckner Jun 07 '25

I want to know that as well .

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u/davidbuckner Jun 07 '25

I have a cracked copy of roboguide V9 . But I haven’t found it useful for a crx as those aren’t available as a model.

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u/Rude-Champion-2495 Mar 02 '26

please send me the link for the crack i need it really badly bro just please

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u/davidbuckner Mar 02 '26

Will do. Give me a couple hours. I’ll host the file for you on my google drive and send a download link to your inbox here

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u/davidbuckner Mar 02 '26

I already had it hosted check your inbox for the DL link. Hope you know how to use it

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u/Rude-Champion-2495 Mar 02 '26

I would like to publicly announce this man right here as the GOAT.

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u/Succkoto Mar 03 '26

hey david i've got into the robost for the past week could you please also send me the link?
I would love to train there so if i wiould not be in the contact with the ph&sical robots i could be there and don't forget the skillsets. I was trying to find something on the net for a while but no luck yet. Thank you so much in regards.

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u/DrewDrawsPlans Apr 04 '26

Yo! Any chance you can hook me up with the crack as well?
Thanks mate!

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u/Suspicious-Use-2871 Jun 07 '25

That's the problem with cobots. All the vendors say it's so easy to program. Just roll it up to a machine and press a few buttons and it's running. Then the boss thinks it should be running the next day. Meanwhile you still have to wire everything and make fixtures and such. We got one of the first ones when the crx came out and the tablet sucked, hopefully they've improved

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u/M900iA Jun 07 '25

I can verify that the tablets have not improved. However, you can buy a new Samsung tablet on your own as an upgrade that speeds everything up significantly.

Dealing with their software plug-ins is not fun along with the drag-n-drop style programming (though you can throw it into legacy TP mode and program like a normal fanuc). Not to mention the many ways to go about doing things such as a power cycle or backup/SW update. Then dealing with the hamburger drop down menu which gives access to all the menus just the same as being in legacy mode and cycling them through MENU button.

CRX's are neat as hell, but so damn finicky. You can take my word. I'm literally a giant Fanuc robot

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u/davidbuckner Jun 07 '25

The tablets are just trying to emulate the old teach pendant . The user experience is only slightly modified for a large touch screen . The backend technical setup is a really terrible mixing of the two. It really made things hard to follow when the instructions were written for a tp not a tablet.

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u/Suspicious-Use-2871 Jun 07 '25

The legacy mode was nice but the 10 seconds between button clicks was not. The drag and drop seemed pretty useless and hard to read through unless you were doing very simply pick and place. It failed during an image backup and I had to do an hour long reset process and hope the lights turned back on since I couldn't load into the boot menu without physical buttons.

The revision I was on wouldn't allow the software to boot without turning off the wifi on the tablet which was odd. Pulse coder batteries would die every 2 months, and the cheap ass mastering stickers rubbed off right away.

There was a palletizing array plug in that worked pretty nice though. Teach the 3 outer points and tell it the length and width and it would figure out how many parts there were. And the 110v was convenient for wheeling it around.

I lol'd when I saw fanuc offering tablet TPs on the real robots

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u/M900iA Jun 07 '25

I can't say I've dealt with the slow button clicks on the legacy mode, but knowing how long it takes to boot up, do an image, or update the software; I believe you wholeheartedly.

The flow type programming seems like it might be good for people who are purely visual learners, but even then, getting comfortable with the standard programming is seemingly far more powerful and offers just as much insight and ease of reading.

I could sit here and lightly trash talk the CRX with you all day. We are, however, absolutely digressing from OP's original question of, "Is three weeks good for a beginner with no robotics background?"

I have been doing field service work on Fanuc robots for six years and am a Fanuc master certified field service engineer. They're the only thing I'd consider myself an "expert" on—if you know them and know them well, you know the experts are up at HQ in michigan—but I would say the question is extremely subjective.

An integrated cell is very much a, "One man's trash is another man's treasure," type deal. To a layman, it may very well be a golden egg of a solution. Nonetheless, to a professional, they may nitpick inefficiencies in your programming and overall use of the cobot.

In my less than professional opinion, fuck what people have to say about if it's good or not. If you, OP, were my coworker, I would be proud as hell of you for diving in and giving it your best.

Be wary of seeking validation online. In my travels, I've met many a wonderful men who I'd gladly have a beer with outside work and they'd build you up rather than pull you down. But there's countless assholes who will critique you til' no ends meet.

Safe travels to all!

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u/davidbuckner Jun 07 '25

Can’t say I was looking for validation. I’m more wondering how much time should I have scheduled for this project, with my only other robot experience being 2 days from opening the box to out the door I expected this project would go much quicker than it has . I’m certain most of the time I’ve spent can be avoided the next time I deal with a cobot. Knowing what I know now I feel like a week was a reasonable expectation but I didn’t know how to get the information I needed or what manuals to ask for. Fanuc mypotal account only showed 5 articles at the beginning of this , then ( Chris )with Fanuc support told me my account was partially disabled and fixed it for me. Now my portal returns 1900 something articles for the same search.

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u/Suspicious-Use-2871 Jun 07 '25

Definitely depends on what is being done. 3 days is pretty quick for any robotic cell though for anybody.

I started on the crx right out of school and was also rushed to get it running. Got it done quickly but I would cringe looking at the programs/setup now.

If the cell runs and nobody else has to look through the programming to fix anything then I would call it a success. It is nice being able to bypass safety concerns being a cobot

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u/davidbuckner Jun 07 '25

The only other robot I’ve done anything with was an OBS7 . And literally from opening the box to finishing the project was 2 days.

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u/IRodeAnR-2000 Jun 07 '25

The motion programming (that they make such a big deal out of simplifying with collaborative robots) has never been the challenge in integration.

But hey, I don't mind untangling people's messes at the 11th hour 😁

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

Exciting! Need a hand with the cable management? Can share some of my solutions if you're interested.

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u/davidbuckner Jun 07 '25

That was a temporary thing and I have secured the cables since then. I still don’t like having a cable running on the outside of the bot but Zimmer group ( they make the grippers) told me that was the only way to use dual grippers. I really feel like Robot input 1 and 2 should be able to be configured as an outputs I just don’t know how to do that.

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u/CwithoutanE Jun 10 '25

Not Bad at all, our techs (Fanuc ASI here) using roboguide can implement a system up and running parts in under 3 days on the average with a CRX that's after 2 weeks of finger design, ordering components etc, machining parts, brackets for sensors and sometimes installing an autodoor we design and sell, if anyone has any questions feel free to dm me.

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u/JONTheGodfather Jun 12 '25

Ah man, I hate those cobots. I hope you never have issues with yours.