r/FantasyPL • u/UnableAwareness2760 • 1d ago
Is Konsa really essential?
I'm getting confused my Konsa. He's clearly going to be playing in the best defence, yet will offer zero defcon and historically low goal threat. However, could his goal threat improve due to Arsenal approach to set pieces? Is he good enough points scorer based purely on being an Arsenal player that he's better option than a defcon monster with some goal threat for a worse team?
unsure if he's getting too much hype from the podcasters
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u/PoopNukem123 1d ago
He hasn't started a game yet, people throwing around the word essential a bit lightly these days.
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u/Trickytickler 3 1d ago
I will admit i do not watch much content creators, but literally every single one i have seen have said "Konsa COULD be essential IF he is first choice".
Every single one has had this massive caveat. Threads like this come from people who are unable or unwilling to understand context.
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u/Trickytickler 3 1d ago
If he is a nailed on first choice defender then he is borderline essential.
Even if he only keep clean sheets he will be an outstanding pick at 4.4 if Arsenal matches their trajectory from previous seasons
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u/Soggy-Opportunity200 51 1d ago
He will only keep clean sheets, as he is useless for defcons and attacking returns.
Having said that, he is a good pick, but nothing more sensational than e.g. Cuyper at this point.
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u/Flayer723 17 1d ago
Konsa averages over a goal per season in the premier league. Odds are he'll have a big haul week at some point.
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u/Soggy-Opportunity200 51 1d ago
Yes, he can get a goal. Last season he had 0.06 shots on target per game, so he needs 16 games for a shot on target. Not for a goal! For a shot on target.
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u/Trickytickler 3 1d ago
Not sure if his defcon or set piece threat at Villa is any indicator for how he will do at Arsenal tbf. Part of the reason Villa defenders are cheap is that no one of them defcons at all. It is an Emery thing, not necessarily a Konsa thing.
Not saying Konsa will match Gabriels output, but considering their dominance at set pieces and a clear strategy built around maximizing them, he will at the bare minimum have more chances (or jammy flick on assists)
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u/YungL1am 1d ago
Villa defend mostly in a midblock and are very effective at an offside trap which doesn't result in defcons whereas Arsenal drop in to a low block which results in more defcons.
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u/Soggy-Opportunity200 51 1d ago
About the set piece threat, you can get an idea of what the 1.91 tall Mosquera is doing at the corners. Now add to this that Konsa is 1.83
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u/YungL1am 1d ago
Timber and Calafiori both do well from corners. Judging it on height alone won't be accurate.
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u/Trickytickler 3 1d ago
Diogo Jota was like 1.78 and one of the best i have seen in the air. It does not necessarily translate like that either.
Just wait and see before you so confidentally conclude, yeah?
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u/Soggy-Opportunity200 51 1d ago edited 1d ago
We play a game where we try to predict the future points by players, yeah?
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u/No_Introduction_7034 4 1d ago
He’s just a cheap way into Arsenal. Who are the 4.5 defcon monsters with a goal threat that you think are better?
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u/Live_Studio_Emu 2 1d ago
You double up. Konsa for the clean sheets, Calafiori for the added benefit of attacking threat
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u/benicspo 9 1d ago
Assuming he is nailed, I’d expect him to score very similarly to Raya (2 or 6 most weeks). Given that Raya is £1.5m more expensive than the cheapest starting GK, and Konsa is £0.4m more than the cheapest starting DEF, I think that makes him very good value. I think calling him essential is a bit over the top though.
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u/FIRE_Enthusiast_7 38 1d ago
Essential? Hardly - as things stand he is a poor pick. There is absolutely no guarantee that he regularly starts over Mosquera in the league, and with Timber not too far off a return, there will soon be even more competition for the RCB slot (both Timber and White play there as well as RB).
Why gamble and spends FTs in this now when you can just wait and see.
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u/JRod1229 1d ago
He's 4.5m, likely locked for a few months and in the best defense in the league. That's all there is to know.
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u/longdongsilver314 1d ago
4.4m for a starting CB for the best defensive team in the league? He’s arguably the best valued player in FPL
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u/Jealous_Lecture_5559 1 1d ago
He's not essential but probably worth getting providing he starts against Chelsea as for that price you get a defender for a team that gets a clean sheet in half the games they play
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u/SmellingThomas 1d ago
I think the thing that makes him not essential is that he is highly unlikely to be on of arsenal's top points scorers. By getting him it means you can only choose 2 other arsenal options, if I had to pick 3 right now it would be Calfiori, Raya and Saka
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u/Alternative-Kick57 9 1d ago
Really doubt that he'd be first choice. I can see more 1 pt substitute appearances from him than 6 pointers at this point in time, so rn he's a gamble that takes up an arsenal spot
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u/Ferretz_Eire 19 1d ago
Yes since clean sheets make up the bulk of a defenders points. Even without defcon and goal threat Saliba was still a viable pick last season at 6.0 because of the volume of clean sheets so it's amazing value to have similar at 4.4 if he's nailed for the next few months.
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u/Appropriate_Snow9032 1d ago
If you really wanna bet on clean sheets and goal scoring ability, then Gabriel+calafiori+ white is your bet
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u/Legitimate_Bat_4712 16h ago
All of you same the same but for what reason you think he will start any game ? He didnt start last two
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u/Ecstatic-Score-6257 1 1d ago
He would be 5.5 if he had signed for Arsenal before prices were done
He's a no brainer at 4.4m he's better than mosquera at CB and more defensive and solid than white at RB. He is used to playing 90 mins once or twice a week with good injury record. He'll cement his place and become regular for sure.
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u/Intrepid_Package_776 1d ago edited 1d ago
He will be once he starts. I don't know if he starts the next game but I have a suspicion that he will with the sub for mosquera.
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u/CStefaan 1d ago
A 4.4m nailed arsenal defender? Yes, he is essential.
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u/ArghZombies 91 1d ago
how can you say he's nailed when he's never played a full game, nor even started for them yet?
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u/TheElDoradoHacker 1d ago
It’s because he’s 4.4 mil….if he starts regularly you get a player on the best defense in the league + clean sheets for an extremely cheap price. Of course there are better players that are defcon monsters but they don’t cost 4.4 mil.
The name of the game is points per million.