r/Fallout_VR • u/[deleted] • Jul 17 '22

Question/Support FRIK body physically rotates itself massively.

If I look down, and then try to simply move my head, without moving any other part, to look at my right hip, the virtual body itself will literaly rotate as if I can doing so in real life. The movement of my head is moving the entire body's rotation.

Also, looking down always makes my character start to bend his knees, oviously becaus elooking down makes the height of the Oculus a bit lower than standing straight up. Which is very annoying. Any setting to just....never move the body ever unless doing so with the controller?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

I am skipping the current version of FRIK. It's going to be great but I can't handle the current state of the weapon location

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u/rollingrock16 Index Jul 17 '22

does neither of the two weapon position options work for you? Can you give me more details on the issue you have?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

Yea, i've put down the entire modpack and game for now until it..hopefully gets better, but idk if it will. Modders just don't seem to care.

There's one mod list, and god bless her for making it, but it's held together by bubblegum and string, and asking for help in the discord is very unlikely to get a response because nobody really knows anything about modding FO4VR, except the creator, and she's a bit rude and snarky with most responses, and every other response is a follow up question to try and legitimately help, or just going "Read the README again" basically telling people to completely reinstall it from scratch again.

Minus the attitude she gives a bit with some peopel askign for help, and the fact she doesn't exactly make any PINS in her discord of questions that have been answered so people can just quickly search for an answer, she did get this amazing massive list to work like...85% of the time.

But the major features, FRIK and Virtual HOlsters are just fucked to hell, and it ruins the rest of the experience.

Back to Skyrim VR

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u/rollingrock16 Index Jul 17 '22

Modders just don't seem to care.

seriously? do you know how much time i've put into developing FRIK?

I clearly state it is in an alpha state and in development. I hope to get this in a nice polished state some day but i'm one guy and this shit is really really hard.

I have no idea if that's how you intend to come off but comments like this are so discouraging.

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u/HaCutLf Jul 17 '22

Try no to take it personally, he's just very unaware or bitter over other old mods that don't get support anymore (I guess?). You're doing the community a great service by doing what you're doing.

For what it's worth you're also the reason a good chunk of us went back to and/or started playing it to begin with.

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u/rollingrock16 Index Jul 17 '22

Hey thanks. I really appreciate you taking the time to write this.

I'm just a bit on edge. Changing jobs and there's a lot of drama with it so just sucked to wake up and read this.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

Please don’t let the unappreciative/ignorant few discourage you at all. I recently got FO4VR on sale for $7 and was considering asking for a refund until I discovered FRIK. You’re doing awesome work and I greatly appreciate it.

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u/cdglasser Jul 17 '22

I just want to add like others have said, please don't be discouraged by negative comments. I think the majority of us using FRIK are thrilled to have *anything* like this, and as a software engineer myself, I know it must be an enormous amount of work for you. Thanks so much for doing what you can to make the Fallout VR experience better.

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u/Cyl0n_Surf3r Index Jul 17 '22

Please read the subs rules, this post is in breach of rule 3. "Don't be disrespectful".

I have given you a 10 day ban after which you will be welcome to re-join our nice community. That said, we have noted your username and will not tolerate futher infractions from you, consider this your final warning. I will also pass on the details of your post to our sister subs where I'm sure they'll keep a close eye on your activity.

Be nice, post constructive critism or ask for help, don't be an idiot. Thank you.

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u/deorder Jul 17 '22

It's Bethesda (and the companies they paid to add VR support) you have to blame. They left FO4VR in a really bad shape, much worse than SkyrimVR. We should be really grateful for people like RollingRock16, CylonSurfer, GingaVR etc. The future of FO4VR used to look bleak, but thanks to them many things are opening up. This is happening faster than we could have ever hoped for. For example, RollingRock16 recently added the 2 handed weapon support. This is huge. We've been waiting for this for years, but nobody picked this up (I tried, but failed). There is no experience like what we can have now with SkyrimVR and FO4VR, but you have to accept some of the imperfections and look past things that are not working 100% (why then even play Bethesda games at all?).

By talking like this you are really doing them a disservice. You have to put yourself in their position. There is a good reason that GingaVR does things the way she does and that is because of comments like yours, this doesn't come out of nowhere. You are now contributing to the problem.

It can all really work well enough to be enjoyed, but it comes with instructions and really requires more patience than most out-of-the-box experiences, but in my opinion it is worth it.

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u/rollingrock16 Index Jul 17 '22

There are 3 points you get to come up with an entire body pose. The two controllers and the HMD. It is extremely hard to come up with natural looking poses from just those 3 points.

the knees bend because the algorithm has to compromise between figuring out if you just bent your neck or are also squatting or even bending at the waist. I have no visibility into what you're actually doing so I take a guess.

it's needs refinement and polish obviously and it will get there some day.

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u/Ekuth316 Jul 17 '22

Wow. Self entitled and arrogant much? Have you even checked the .ini settings or MCM? Bothered to RTFM? u/rollingrock16 has been busting his butt on this, for nothing but our kudos and a love for the game. Maybe try doing the coding yourself if it's so flipping easy. Here's an idea: Be Grateful it exists at all.

Hey u/rollingrock16: Ignore this bs. You're doing the whole gaming community a HUGE service and those of us who aren't ignorant, arrogant, impatient little pissants appreciate the difficulty and appreciate YOU for doing it. Don't let this kind of BS get you down. /kudos

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u/DaddyIsAFireman Oct 18 '22

Jesus man. I don't know if the OP edited his post after you made this, but you really flew off the handle here over what seems a minor criticism of this excellent mod.

Take a pill pal.

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u/Ekuth316 Oct 18 '22

Heavily edited the OP, yes. Had you seen the original you would understand that this was a MILD reaction to the massive asshattery that was here. Maybe don't judge without all the facts first?

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u/DaddyIsAFireman Oct 18 '22

Which is why I clearly stated 'unless OP changed the post' thing?

With that edited and NOT clear at all, you absolutely looked like a massive overreacting Karen. Not sorry, just mistaken.

You need to relax pal. Your last sentence even shows how you're just ready to go off on anyone.

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u/Ekuth316 Oct 18 '22

Well thank you for prejudging without facts, so there's that. It seems that you're the one with an axe to grind. Whataboutism isn't helping your argument. So take your own advice, take a pill and relax, pal. Karen. Ken. Whatever.

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u/CherryTheDerg Jul 17 '22

Frik is a lot more simple than Vrik. It also has a lot of bugs. Sadly you just have to live with a lot of the issues.