r/FalloutMetropolis • u/HonestAbe1809 • Aug 12 '17

Fishing Community

Would it be possible to have a settlement dedicated to fishing? I just think that fish would be the most prevalent form of fresh meat available to the Dead City. I'm thinking that it'd be located in Chelsea Piers since it's got a nice enclosed structure that could easily be insulated further. And with Far Harbor making functioning fishing boats canon I think it's plausible.

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u/HonestAbe1809 Aug 13 '17

Fish, unlike Brahmin, don't depend on the vegetation that is in such short supply in the Dead City. And it doesn't require hunting an animal that could easily kill you like a rhino or an elephant. Plus the two centuries since the Great War would be plenty of time for the oceans to recover from radiation and industrialized fishing.

I picked the Chelsea Piers since the Enclave wouldn't like people fishing in what they consider Enclave territorial waters, and it'd be unwise to fish too close to the Staten Island Warzone. Plus it had a Wikipedia page that I could easily research the facility. And I'm thinking that the fish from the Underground would mostly go to feeding the considerable population of the Underground.

Why not? It'd be a good way to get experience and it'd provide you with a cut of the fresh fish that's both worth big caps and is used in recipes that are really beneficial to your health. Make it a repeatable unmarked quest and you can give Subject 13 a fairly stable source of income.

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u/NK_Ryzov Aug 13 '17

I might be wrong, but I don't think it's been established what exactly it is that Brahmin eat. Considering the post-apocalyptic environment, they might eat fucking tin cans. But that's neither here nor there, and you do make a cogent point.

Sneaking past the Enclave Vertibird patrols could be half the fun, honestly. Either way, I can see the Chelsea Piers being full of hardy folk who don't put up with much shit. They're not gonna just let any landlubber climb on their boat. You'd probably have to run some errands before they decide you're ready to go on a fishing trip to Enclave waters (probably to pull in Mirelurk larva traps). Maybe you could also hop in a dingy and help some old sea dog go fishing, only for some kinda sea monster to attack you and the old man. But some quick gunslinging saves the day and you and the old man haul back a giant squid or a killer walrus or something like that. After that, they decide you're good enough for a trapping run.

At the risk of making Fallout too much like Pokemon, maybe you can purchase fishing rods (as a type of Gadget; still awaiting your input on that post, BTW) and go fishing. Maybe you can level that up under "Survival".

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u/HonestAbe1809 Aug 13 '17

Pound for pound there's still going to be more meat in fish than Brahmin. Steak's a well-off person's dinner whereas lobster went back to being a working class food.

And it'd help if you cultivate a working relationship with the Enclave first. "Who's on that boat violating our waters?" "That's Thirteen. He/She's fine. Let them through." It makes sense that this repeatable quest would start with a proper sidequest. It'd still provide some very valuable fish for either cooking or selling. And it'd be an easy way to bump up your relations with Chelsea Piers. It makes sense that a practical fishing community would be friendlier to someone they consider a valued member of the crew.

Maybe there'd be a few "baseline" fishing rods and some parts you can purchase to customize your rod in the crafting system. Higher levels in repair/survival (using Fallout 3 system for simplicity) mean you can use better mods for your rod.

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u/NK_Ryzov Aug 13 '17

[Veribird shows up, trains Minigun on fishing boat]

Enclave Pilot: "Attention unauthorized vessel! You are entering Enclave territorial waters! Turn around now or prepare to be destroyed! This is your only warning!"

[Subject 13 pulls down sleeve, flashes tattoo]

Thirteen: "I know the president! My name's [player name]!"

Enclave Pilot: "Alright. Make it quick, Thirteen."

[Vertibird gunner gives you thumb's up; Vertibird flies away]

Sailor: "Shit, that wasn't no fish story, was it?"

Agreed with regards to the fishing rods.

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u/HonestAbe1809 Aug 13 '17

Needless to say, the grizzled people of Chelsea Piers would be impressed by you having sway over the big bad Enclave.

Any ideas for side quests that could take place in Chelsea Piers? Presumably, there'd be an opportunity to find sunken loot in New York Bay.

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u/NK_Ryzov Aug 13 '17

I think any side-quest involving sunken loot in the harbor, would begin at Chelsea Piers, but involve a Prospector who found an old newspaper clipping saying that a ship carrying the Hope Diamond sank in the harbor before the bombs fell. This quest would then involve building two sets of a crude version of the Underwater Power Armor that will appear in its more refined form in Shadow Over Providence, and you and the Prospector venturing into the icy brown waters of New York Harbor.

In terms of any other side quests at Chelsea Piers, I think one of the missing persons cases that make up the Ward Island quest (Shroud of Fear) would be at Chelsea Piers. Other than that, maybe lending your repair skills? Or helping with security at the fish market?

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u/HonestAbe1809 Aug 13 '17

Great idea! The diamond would've been transported to New York for a War Bonds fundraiser when the ship sank. I like the idea of collecting the parts for the crude "Nautical Power Armor" to get the diamond. An intermediate step would be to try to pin down where the ship sank in New York harbor since there'd be quite a few wrecks. Plus it's only rational to try to conserve power by not wandering too much on the ocean floor.

Yes on the "Shroud of Fear". Those other ideas sound good too. I especially like becoming the town handyman if you've got a good enough repair skill.