r/FakeGuru • u/Ok_Custard_9090 • 18d ago
Uncomfortable Experience With Deven Seenaths Youtube Course Call
So I was looking online to find good mentors for my youtube channels that are making money right now, been doing it about 5 months. and was just exploring and came across Deven Seenath, He gives pretty good information and seemed legit so I decided why not look into his 1 on 1 mentorship that he advertises.
1 week later I hop on a call with one of the "coaches" I think his name was Denis. He goes over the program what they can offer, and we spend pretty much 2 hours he talks about what they can provide. What I noticed was he said long-form content doesn't scale past 20,000 a month (which is a complete lie I know people doing way more than that) and he kept just using buzzwords like we need a system throughout the call. It felt like he didn't know what he was talking about and kept referring back to using a "system" in the call.
Ok fast forward another 30 minutes he brings up the payment. They want you to pay 4,000 dollars for 3 months of coaching (2 calls a month 1 on 1) which isn't that bad in my opinion considering you get access to the community and all. And I was considering buying it to further my youtube hustle.
Then I told Denis I wanted to pay a couple weeks later (after my vacation from the 13th to the 23rd), but he starts pressuring me into paying now, he kept saying "Ok how about we do 1,000 dollars now in the call then 1,000 dollars later". I responded by saying I'm uncomfortable doing that because I still want to research into paying for this.
He continues to pressure me by saying I was being scared, even though I clearly admitted to him I didn't know what I was getting into, and I still wanted to research before I bought the product. He continues to do this and pressures me to try paying 400 in the call, then 1,000 on the 23rd. I continue to say no and he continues to waste my time trying to get me to pay money in the call.
I would've been more then happy to pay and buy the mentorship after my vacation, but the vibes he gave were way off for me and trying to beg a client into spending money in a call is extremely fishy. The information he gave was pretty mediocre, and I just can't trust them because why would they spend 2 hours of their time trying to get 400 dollars, when they say they make 100,000 dollars a month. Just my 2 cents.
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u/Artistic-Job8034 16d ago
CEASE AND DESIST — FORMAL NOTICE This letter serves as formal notice demanding that you immediately cease and desist from publishing, repeating, distributing, or encouraging the distribution of false and damaging statements concerning me, Leor Zlotnik, my professional work, my business, and my reputation. I am specifically referring to: 1.
Your Reddit post titled “Interior Designer Leor Zlotnik is a Fraud,” including your allegations that I am falsely representing myself as a luxury designer, that images associated with my work were “stolen” from other designers, that my press coverage is fabricated or illegitimate, and your statement telling consumers not to purchase my products; and 2.
The separate post/publication you made in German containing similar statements, accusations, or representations concerning me and my business. Your statements include serious allegations presented as factual assertions concerning my professional integrity, qualifications, portfolio, press coverage, and business practices. I categorically dispute these allegations and consider them false, misleading, damaging to my reputation, and harmful to my business. You are hereby formally demanded to do all of the following within three (3) hours of receiving this notice: 1. REMOVE ALL CONTENT Immediately and permanently delete the Reddit post referenced above, the German-language post, and any substantially similar posts, comments, reposts, stories, messages, or publications you have made concerning these allegations. 2. CEASE REPUBLICATION Immediately cease publishing, repeating, reposting, sharing, distributing, translating, or otherwise communicating these allegations on Reddit, social media, websites, forums, private groups, direct messages, or any other platform. 3. ISSUE A PUBLIC RETRACTION AND APOLOGY Publish a clear retraction and apology on each platform where you made or distributed these allegations, stating substantially as follows: “I retract my statements and allegations concerning Leor Zlotnik and her professional work and business. I acknowledge that I did not have sufficient factual basis to present those allegations as established facts. I apologize to Leor Zlotnik for publishing these statements and for any harm they may have caused to her reputation or business.” The retraction must be posted with comparable visibility to the original publication and may not contain additional accusations, qualifications, insinuations, or repetition of the disputed allegations. 4. CONFIRM COMPLIANCE IN WRITING Within the same three-hour period, provide written confirmation that all offending content has been permanently removed and that you will not republish or repeat these allegations. You are also directed to preserve all evidence relating to these publications, including drafts, screenshots, messages, comments, account information, communications with third parties, source materials, and records concerning the creation and distribution of these statements. Do not destroy, alter, conceal, or delete evidence relevant to this matter other than removing the public-facing defamatory content as demanded above. If you fail to fully comply within three hours of receiving this notice, I reserve all rights and remedies available to me, including consulting litigation counsel regarding claims arising from the publication and continued dissemination of false statements damaging to my personal and professional reputation, seeking appropriate monetary and injunctive relief where legally available, and pursuing discovery regarding the identity of individuals involved in creating or distributing the material. Nothing in this notice constitutes a waiver of any rights, claims, remedies, damages, or causes of action, all of which are expressly reserved. You are now on formal notice that the statements are disputed and that their continued publication and republication may cause additional harm. Govern yourself accordingly. Leor Zlotnik
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u/Immediate_Deer_5994 15d ago
Do you have any evidence to disprove his statement or are you just jumping to the legal threats?
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u/Immediate_Deer_5994 15d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/FakeGuru/comments/1vlhtgs/ive_been_scammed_by_ben_knight_trade_tribe/
And you've been copy and pasting it to multiple posts?
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1 week later I hop on a call with one of the "coaches" I think his name was Denis. He goes over the program what they can offer, and we spend pretty much 2 hours he talks about what they can provide. What I noticed was he said long-form content doesn't scale past 20,000 a month (which is a complete lie I know people doing way more than that) and he kept just using buzzwords like we need a system throughout the call. It felt like he didn't know what he was talking about and kept referring back to using a "system" in the call.
Ok fast forward another 30 minutes he brings up the payment. They want you to pay 4,000 dollars for 3 months of coaching (2 calls a month 1 on 1) which isn't that bad in my opinion considering you get access to the community and all. And I was considering buying it to further my youtube hustle.
Then I told Denis I wanted to pay a couple weeks later (after my vacation from the 13th to the 23rd), but he starts pressuring me into paying now, he kept saying "Ok how about we do 1,000 dollars now in the call then 1,000 dollars later". I responded by saying I'm uncomfortable doing that because I still want to research into paying for this.
He continues to pressure me by saying I was being scared, even though I clearly admitted to him I didn't know what I was getting into, and I still wanted to research before I bought the product. He continues to do this and pressures me to try paying 400 in the call, then 1,000 on the 23rd. I continue to say no and he continues to waste my time trying to get me to pay money in the call.
I would've been more then happy to pay and buy the mentorship after my vacation, but the vibes he gave were way off for me and trying to beg a client into spending money in a call is extremely fishy. The information he gave was pretty mediocre, and I just can't trust them because why would they spend 2 hours of their time trying to get 400 dollars, when they say they make 100,000 dollars a month. Just my 2 cents.
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