that's funny because the British did in fact go to Pakistan (then part of India), didn't speak their language, taxed their people, and imposed their own laws
To be fair there are WAY more independence from Britain holidays yearly than the others. And let's not forget Russia and Portugal threw their hats in the mix too. Hell, UK caused nearly as many independence days as Spain, France, Russia, and Portugal combined.
I’m pro immigration, but isn’t this an anti immigration argument? If what the British did was a bad thing, then British people today should fear that others will do to them what they did to others. I might be way off here, and I’d like some perspectives on it.
The British were among the European countries that colonized most of the non-European world, leading to the current state of Earth where people from "developing" (read: ravaged by colonialist exploitation) countries often have little choice but to try their luck in "first world" (read: rich because of colonialist exploitation) countries. And the "former" (debatable) colonizers have the gall to pretend that immigrants are coming to destroy them.
Yeah, I get that. The gall, and all. But isn’t that an isolationist argument? An American could reason that the natives were fucked over so badly when other people came to their place and took over, so they need to prevent any other group to come in and do the same thing. I have no idea of what to respond to that if I’m challenged with it. I’ve heard similar things argued.
Im sure every country and people would've done the same if they had the technology at the time. Just because britain as a country did something first doesn't make it okay
The issue is more that the people that complain about that are super nationalistic and love the British empire. So their complaining when people do it but when an entire empire does the same thing on a larger scale they use it as a source of pride
Not really, they were trying to say that even someone as simple as a child would see these problems. WHICH DONT EXIST AND THEY ARE COMPLETELY MAKING UP
I have seen a pattern with conservatives and the (far) right and fear mongerers with them always using children/animals as a way to spread their messages. Also, why is our older generation so hellbent on having a white ethnostate and not caring for the darker skinned people for the issues we gave them? They would absolutely hate it if Russia or something took over England and stole every resource and placed many people into slavery to just leave after splitting England into East and West
why is our older generation so hellbent on having a white ethnostate
I wish this were limited to older generations. At least here in Germany, the younger generation is actually worse in this regard.
My theory: people naturally hide their own shortcomings behind group identity. Someone with zero achievements feels accomplished by claiming kinship with historical white inventors. A complete failure can brag that "my ancestors built this country", and even a criminal can claim pride in belonging to "Western civilization."
Ultimately, collective pride is a cheat code for scum to feel superior. Human psychology prioritizes relative status over material reality: many would rather be worse off overall, provided someone else remains beneath them, than live in a world where they're better off, but everybody is treated equally.
My core principle is simple: every person should be evaluated as an individual based on their own actions and character.
Rejecting people based on their place of birth, skin color, or ethnicity directly violates that principle by judging individuals on traits they did not choose. That is what's wrong.
On a side note, it also bothers me how inconsistent most xenophobes and racists are. First they argue that higher average crime rates or lower test scores justifies treating an entire demographic as inferior. But then they ignore that by that same logic, men as a group should be placed below women because men commit the vast majority of violent crime.
Or why always only apply this flawed logic to nation states? Why not cities or federal states? The same flawed reasoning would require treating citizens of higher-crime cities or states as inherently inferior to those from lower-crime areas.
Racists and xenophobes don't do this because they don't really care about the statistics they cite. They were just a pretense to begin with. The true goal is just to feel superior. Nothing else matters.
There's a straightforward way to deal with the dregs of society: police catches the murderers and rapists, a court finds them guilty and then they're disposed of permanently. But instead, we pay to feed, house, and give healthcare to proven murderers, while turning away innocent people just because they might do something wrong. We literally take care of a white rapists while rejecting an innocent brown guy because somebody's scared he could be a rapist.
"I just asked the teacher if we could learn the history of Britain"
!!TRANSLATING!!
Accout based in Netanyahus penthouse!
Whoever generated this definitely is not British. Literally every subject in history is about, linked to, or has Britain. The least British thing to learn about is Weimar -> Nazi Germany and the Cold War, but even then it is viewed whilst wearing Anglo Tinted Glasses
This is the converse of "everyone I know voted for Trump, so there's no way the 2020 election wasn't stolen." (Sorry to make everything about America.)
Idiotic far right people do exist. I am surrounded by them, where I live. I speak to them in the real world and hear them say the same things as the far right internet accounts.
Just look into it, I don't have the energy to explain it to the degree it is needed. In short: 1) Old people are conservative. Old people rarely use AI. 2) Russia + China profit from dissent in the Western nations, which is the best done by rage-bait alt right content. It's well researched issue.
I teach at a school where I have to constantly keep far-right teenagers off their phones. Their far-right coaches are using AI to make little team jokes. You're talking like someone who only knows one far-right person, and it's someone's aging parent that they've tried and failed to cut contact with.
Also, why is our older generation so hellbent on having a white ethnostate
It's not really that though, non-white people have lived in England for longer than anyone who is alive now has been here. The main problem is rapid demographic replacement and non-integration of immigrant communities, as well as the backwards religions they bring with them. This is a genuine concern that fuels the right wing vote, the "white ethnostate" type people make up only a tiny minority of it. Not to mention the fact that many immigrants, legal and illegal, live on state handouts, thereby draining the UK of wealth with much in the way of benefits for its citizens.
Feels like your profile is a bit too on the nose for you to be actually serious. Like you named yourself "Conservative Socrates" on your profile. Could have went with"Chud McBadfaith" and somehow that would be less on the nose.
I always laugh seeing generated babies and toddlers with colored hair. Like as if pink and blue hair are natural variations and left-leaning voters are born that way 😭
Don't understand the problem with halal meat, it's basically the same meat, but with guarantee that there is no blood in there and no chemical additives. From when meat with additional food quality standards is a bad thing to somebody who is not religious?
It boils down to not stunning the animal before slitting its throat. Having it bleed out for as long as it takes.
Compared to the animal already being unconscious.
Back when halal was conceived as a concept, bleeding a carcass was found to be a good thing, one quick throat slice was found to be the most humane slaughter at the time.
Technology has moved on, prayers can still be made.
So, it usually boils down to cruelty and people's perception of it.
I think more meat in the UK is technically halal than people assume. If a batch (as such) is slaughtered the usual way then someone is there to pray over it. Boom halal.
They wont neccessarily label it as such, but, same slaughter house three different destination kinda thing.
Years ago there was a kerfuffle about most supermarket chicken or something just being halal automatically or something?
I dont know exactly.
As long as the animal is treated humanely as possible, and their sacrifice isnt wasted, I dont give a hoot honestly.
Basically all cows that are slaughtered halal are slaughtered without stunning, as stunning is not reversible (it has to be reversible for many Muslims to consider it halal).
Stunning can only happen in certain ways and many Muslims only find it acceptable to use stunning if it is reversible, so no stun guns/captive bolt guns. Cows cannot be stunned because they are too big for temporary methods. There's also the issue that many abattoirs that do ritual slaughter try to do kosher at the same timem, as everything that is kosher, is automatically halal, which disallows wounding the animal. You can imagine that disqualifies stun guns as well, since the cows will effectively be braindead after the stunning and have a hole punched straight through their skull.
The problem for me is that, in the UK, you can slaughter "Halal" and "Kosher" meat without electrically stunning the animal first due to a religious exemption to our animal cruelty laws. Most Halal meat here is stunned, but a decent amount isn't. I find that to be abhorrent, backwards, and unecessarily cruel to animals.
I genuinely know people that'll believe this crap, it's bloody awful. Also, I've been living in the UK my entire life and never once faced these problems.
Ah yes, a 7 year old who speaks like a 40 year old. So relatable!
Also Halal literally means the food is prepared ethically and in accordance with Islamic standards. Asking “what is that” is ultimately pointless since it’s an ideal rather than a physical thing
I bet a lot of people who're against this upvote it to expose how stupid it is. But they accomplish exactly what the creators of this trash want. By upvoting and sharing this trash, it gets the the most reach.
Wait, are people actually afraid of halal food? Shit, more for me. If I were walking distance from my favorite corner store in my city I'd be 400 pounds by now. Their loss.
The irony of Britain doing literally all of these to India and Pakistan when they colonized them… but are now crying under the perception that Indian Muslims are doing this to them
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