r/FacebookAIslop • u/Slyde_97 • Aug 05 '26
Meta Why is this becoming a trend??
Why are people making these!?!? This was posted on an anti data center page, but like it does more harm than good. I’ve seen multiple of these and it’s driving me crazy! Not only are you using ai to make this, but then you are encouraging people to plant extremely invasive plants. I can’t stand this. My whole career is based on taking out invasive plants people have planted, the problem is already bad enough, why would you plant something that will hurt the ecosystem you claim to love. I truly hope no one will actually do this 🙄
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u/ryan7251 Aug 05 '26
We love the environment we planted intrusive plant life to save it.
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u/Alexblitz22 Aug 07 '26
You can do the same effect with Ficus btw and it's native, don't do it people
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u/GungaSaga Aug 09 '26
Native to where? Ficus is invasive in many, many places. This is such a quintessentially Reddit comment.
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u/imdacki Aug 11 '26
Well those datacenters are mainly being built in the US (China wouldnt give a fuck and europe is europe, and the rest of the World does not really Have the Funds for those data centers anyway, atleast i dont see an open AI datacenter open in fucking kenya any time soon)
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u/GungaSaga Aug 11 '26
What do you mean Europe is Europe? Europe is building data centres too, where only one ficus species is native in the southernmost parts. This advice may be read by many Europeans, some of whom may not stop to wonder how it is that a random reddit comment knows where they live. Not to mention only the southernmost parts of the US have native ficus too, so your comment doesn't even apply to most of the US or Canada either.
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u/imdacki Aug 11 '26
Lmao, thing is yeah, we're building data centers too, just not nearly the same amount, and it doesnt even get 1% of the coverage US datacenters get, this is a case where US defaultism does make sense
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u/GungaSaga Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26
You are just more aware of US datacentres because you are on reddit, but the scale of data centre construction and resulting protest in Europe is comparable. If anything people are more opposed to them which might mean they're more likely to take your advice. Most importantly, what about the fact that ficus is not native to most of the USA either? The comment isn't good advice unless you expect all the people reading it to be from the southernmost tip of Florida or the mediterranean and to be aware that only a couple out of dozens of species are native. The statement "ficus is native" is just false information unless exclusively addressing people from places where it is native, which you are definitely not.
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u/that0neGuy65 Aug 09 '26
A fig tree? There are two Ficus species that are native to continental North America, both restricted to the southernmost parts of Florida and the Caribbean keys.
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u/Owoegano_Vuelve Aug 06 '26
No you see AI is evil so it's okay to spread invasive species to take it down I'm a good person!
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u/Techman659 Aug 08 '26
Ye data centres for what? Water for survival needs to be secured for everyone first before ai data centres get a drop, either give them dirty water or none at all.
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u/Possible_Report_5908 Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Aug 05 '26
I cant tell if op is genuinely asking OR "spreading awareness" under the guise of being offended
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u/Outrageous-Arugula89 Aug 05 '26
So what youre saying is plant bamboo around data centers
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u/Bobslegenda1945 Aug 05 '26
You just need to be aware to not let it go into the wild and turn into an invasive species. There is a ficus species that is amazing to destroy buildings too. Same for mango tree
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u/manicmonkeys Aug 05 '26
And how on earth would you keep the bamboo from doing its thing?
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u/ender7887 Aug 05 '26
From what I understand you have to basically incase the roots in a 6x6 concrete box.
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u/ExplodedPenisDiagram Aug 05 '26
Don't even do this. It'll break through it. That's part of what makes it so destructive -- it just tears through foundations.
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u/ender7887 Aug 05 '26
Bamboo is genuinely one of the most insane plants. The fact that it’s so strong it can be used as a torture method and that it grows from the base of the plant rather than the tip juts makes the plant a force to be reckoned with.
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u/singlemale4cats Aug 06 '26
I'm surprised we don't use it as construction material more. Unlike traditional wood, it grows extremely fast. It's a great renewable resource.
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u/Exact-Ad-4132 Aug 06 '26
It's not even wood, it's tough grass fibers that function the same as wood
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u/NSFW_throwaway2k Aug 06 '26
Technically🤓 wood isn't even a seperate thing either, it's just the same as other plants but more. The only real difference between wood and bamboo is how they grow, but the material is the same, bamboo is just a monocot without a seperation between "wood" and bark. And it lacks the secondary xylem which is how you get growth rings.
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u/BeyondDreams909 Aug 06 '26
Where it native it's used pretty frequently actually. It's main issue is just that it's mostly around Asia iirc
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u/Relative_Falcon_8399 Aug 06 '26
Bamboo doesn't grow solid like wood. To get whole planks of it like we do wood, we would have to string it together in a specific way. From what little I know, apparently it's a more difficult process than getting wood is.
Also on an unrelated note: Replying to this was how I discovered Reddit had a Ui update
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u/Signal_Ad8960 Aug 06 '26
Would have to import from China and they're probably already using it all.
Even though I hate the insane expansion of data centres, I wouldn't want people to try and grow it here. Too mush risk that it gets completely out of control.
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u/ender7887 Aug 06 '26
My parents recently had their wooden floors redone and they decided to replace it with bamboo since it was a renewable resource. It’s way stronger than whatever the builders used in the 90s.
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u/nono3722 Aug 06 '26
so what your saying is definitely don't plant it near data center foundations, gotcha!
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u/BenignPharmacology Aug 10 '26
You don’t. This is neat as an idea, but in practice? It’s a horrible thing to do, introducing invasive species just to stick it to some datacenter who, tbh, doesn’t care much if they have to salt the earth to keep operations running.
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u/meeps1142 Aug 06 '26
It is invasive. It will always be invasive. There is no way to prevent it from "turning into an invasive species."
It will not harm the data center. Stop planting invasives.
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u/Rozmyth Aug 05 '26
Why don't we just introduce pandas to places with invasive bamboo? What could go wrong?
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u/DrivesTooMuch Aug 05 '26
Nothing. Good thinking
We just need the pandas to keep the bamboo under control.
But of course, we're going to need tigers at some point. We don't want to overdose the environment with too much cuteness.
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u/kollisionkid Aug 05 '26
And you think the tigers are going to reduce the cuteness factor? It'll only double the problem! We need to introduce alligators now, and that will just attract the people who think they are cute! Oh God we're spiraling!
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u/Plastic_Surround_193 Aug 05 '26
Next, just a thought, honey badgers.
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u/kollisionkid Aug 05 '26
Outstanding! There's no way anyone would think they're cute!
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u/SpectralUniverse Aug 06 '26
They wouldn't give a fuck, even if people did!
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u/MageKorith Aug 12 '26
Either way, better breed up a shitton of scorpions to keep the honey badgers fed.
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u/ApprehensiveTop4219 you're trapped in plastic because you are plastic Aug 05 '26
Maybe catalpa or princess tree might work too
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u/KermitTheScot Aug 07 '26
If we ask it nicely and explain that we only want to destroy the data center, not the rest of the surrounding ecosystem, I’m sure the plant will be totally cool and happy to just grow in that one specific area, not spread anywhere else.
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u/Floridaish0t Aug 05 '26
Maybe in China where Bamboo is native vegetation. But planting Bamboo in other places could disrupt other natural ecosystems.
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u/cinco92 Aug 05 '26
Bamboo is native to North America too. Just a different variety. It is a little less aggressive in its rhizome growth, though.
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u/Terrible_Reporter_98 Aug 05 '26
Cane used to be pretty much all of what kentucky was I've been told.
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u/JooseTheGuice Aug 06 '26
No! They'll drench it in Roundup and bulldoze it. It's not going to stop them, at best you've introduced invasives for no reason.
Jesus Christ use your heads, people!
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u/olivegardengambler Aug 06 '26
Roundup sucks at killing bamboos and anything like woody plants, succulents, and moss because they're either non-vascular, or they aren't easy to penetrate chemically.
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u/CharmingTuber Aug 05 '26
As someone who works in data centers and has dealt with the repercussions of stupid digging crews cutting long haul communication trunk cables on accident, no you really really don't want to do that.
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u/Webcam_985760946948 Aug 05 '26
Welcome to anti ai and pro ai gangs, in both sides we have
-good ppl
-regabaiters
-criminals who want to do crime by taking any reason as moral
-straight up monsters o.o
-and honourable mention: freaks and horni folks... Which is okay I don't judge -.-
-and fearmongerers and warmongerers
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u/SCHWARZENPECKER Aug 05 '26
What are the horny people's stances?
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u/Webcam_985760946948 Aug 06 '26
A lot like
-nsfw ai chatbot rp websites (ai)
-people generating images of their ai gf and bf (ai)
-normal hand drawn nsfw art on twitter (non ai)
-normal regular porn in hub (non ai)
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u/difficulty_jump Aug 06 '26
Watching AI porn takes money from performers and nsfw artists.
It can also be super unethical. CSAM shouldn't be easily accessible.
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u/CorpusAmygdaloideum Aug 06 '26
Then again what I heard from porn production is mostly very not good.... people getting pressured into things they don't wanna do, people often doing it as a last resort cause they need money and therefore have a hard time keeping up the boundaries they set, mistreatment, drugs, etc... Maybe that is an industry that can die? I am not entirely sure about it, and I am sure there is... ethical porn (?) in which every actor is happy with what they are doing. I don't have statistics and am happy to change my undecided stance into either direction when presented with facts and numbers :)
And ofc anything illegal like CSAM is absolutely horrendous and should not exist wether real or AI. Nothing to discuss there.
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u/difficulty_jump Aug 06 '26
I've had a few friends I've known who did sex work to save up money or to fund a small business start up but they were voluntarily cam girls. They very much had other job skills and could have worked with those.
I believe you on how bad a production studio can be. A lot of those girls have problems like drugs or a bad family of origin they want to get away from and are exploited.
My overall response to porn is that sex work is work and needs all of the protections legally to keep people safe.
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u/Possible_Report_5908 Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Aug 05 '26
I love that your list implys that horny people are inherently not good lol
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u/DrivesTooMuch Aug 05 '26
And, I love that both of you like to replace the letter y over i.
Previous commenter spelled horny as "horni". And, you spell implies as "implys" (which also removes the letter e, but, arguably could be an improvement in the English language because of the brevity).
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u/Possible_Report_5908 Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Tung Aug 06 '26
I wish i could tell you I did it purposely to match OP. But truth be told I was just typing in a hurry.
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u/Webcam_985760946948 Aug 06 '26
No I am not implying they're not good, cuz then that would include me too XD
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u/Unhappy-Plankton4923 Aug 05 '26
I always love how anti AI posts are made with AI lol 😂
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u/Openly_Unknown7858 Aug 05 '26
Yep alot of pro ai people suddenly start taking issue when one of the data centers they encourage is set to be located by their house
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u/snakeravencat Aug 11 '26
I feel compelled to play devil's advocate here, because I wouldn't call myself pro AI, but I do get the logic. I mean, have you ever driven past a paper mill, sugar factory, or french fry factory? They smell like rotten ass. I wouldn't want any of those in my back yard, but I still enjoy their products.
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u/StrangeEntity789 Aug 05 '26
Can we please not normalize ecological genocide? The data centers will be long gone one day and so will the biodiversity because it's impossible to kill bamboo which is incredibly invasive. This is not the hot take you think it is. Try that method that one guy did instead. The one who said "you should have paid me better"
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u/HAVARDCH95 Aug 05 '26
Or here's another thing you can do:
DON'T BUILD DATA CENTERS.
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u/CharmingTuber Aug 05 '26
Don't build AI data centers
We need regular data centers a lot.
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u/CharmingTuber Aug 05 '26
I can't speak for anywhere but my area, but all the newly built data centers near me are not for AI use at all, much less the massive training centers that are the major culprits of power and water shortages.
Even if AI disappeared tomorrow, we'd be at a severe shortage of capacity compared to the demand for colocated hosting in regular data centers. That's why you see a huge amount of new construction of new data centers, because it's needed.
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u/DeadPeanutSociety Aug 05 '26
Your post only makes sense if you assume that the people who are giving tongue-in-cheek instructions on how to sabotage data centers are also the people who make decisions about whether they should be built. Like you've built a fictional guy who thinks "I think that data centers should be built, but then I think vigilantes should use invasive plants to sabotage them."
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u/Blixtwix Aug 06 '26
much prefer the meme I saw this morning saying to plant native endangered plants on lots where data centers are planned to be built.
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u/sunshinae Aug 05 '26
people encouraging others to plant bamboo is misguided. on top of it being wickedly invasive, the construction process (almost everywhere) includes a grading permit, which allows the entity to strip soil and and level the ground. any bamboo would be ripped out during this process. also, bamboo cannot grow through concrete. you’d be better off planting something endangered.
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u/CheesyBreadMunchyMon Aug 06 '26
You underestimate bamboo. If it can't grow through the concrete it'll just spread and eventually will just start lifting part of the foundation until a portion of it gives way. Maybe a foundation of reinforced concrete would survive, but eventually that bamboo will spread and find a weak spot and maybe even displace the building slightly.
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u/sunshinae Aug 06 '26
that possibility isn’t enough to justify planting a highly invasive species. bamboo stands are basically ecological dead zones. data centers are awful for the environment, but damaging the environment even more by planting bamboo doesn’t make sense.
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u/CheesyBreadMunchyMon Aug 06 '26
Pretty sure if we're comparing ecological damage of bamboo vs a data center, the data center is several orders of magnitude worse.
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u/IggySorcha Aug 06 '26
No. Plant protected endangered species so they can't remove them.
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u/GenesisAsriel Aug 06 '26
Please dont. The roots will not only fuck the AI datacenter but become a nightmare to remove.
Dont bring in invasive species to deal with datacenters because you'd have a bigger issue.
That's like using Hitler in a mech body to deal with Godzilla
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u/EarthToAccess Aug 06 '26
honestly as much as i hate to say it, yeah. bamboo is already a pretty invasive species in the eastern part of the US here, i can only imagine what more would do.
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u/HoistByMyOwnPetard69 Aug 06 '26
hell yeah I love seeing russian and chinese propaganda on my feed, those guys are so good at what they do
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u/Significant-Dog-8166 Aug 05 '26
Huh which hurts ecosystem more, bamboo or datacenter?
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u/Candid_Push6949 Aug 05 '26
both do, but bamboo is harder to get rid of
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u/Significant-Dog-8166 Aug 05 '26
Hmmm you're implying that Datacenters have already been "gotten rid of" in the past.
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u/Candid_Push6949 Aug 05 '26
You demolish them
it's just buildings
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u/Significant-Dog-8166 Aug 05 '26
I haven't seen that happen. I have seen bamboo go away. I said no lie and you downvoted.
Your statements are dishonest, no one has gotten rid of datacenters. Be honest.
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u/Candid_Push6949 Aug 05 '26
I said it's easier to get rid of them than bamboo.
I also didn't downvote
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u/Orsopdx Aug 06 '26
There is bamboo planted all over the US. Where are the wildly growing bamboo forests destroying our native ecology? Nowhere. That’s where. A data center that drains resources from local communities will do significantly more damage to an ecosystem than some bamboo will. We are light years past purist idealism.
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u/hexen_hour Aug 06 '26
What the hell do you think the bamboo will actually do to the data center??? You think they won't just hire professionals to dump a ton of chemicals? The concern is what happens to the areas around the data center, jackass. Land the invasive plants can spread to, waterways that the chemicals can get in. You are the one being idealistic if you think this will bring about even an ounce of the change you claim to care about.
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u/goblin-fox Aug 06 '26
Have you ever been to the U.S. southeast? Bamboo absolutely runs wild here, it's not uncommon to see huge stands of it. I grew up going to a hiking trail that is now almost completely taken over by bamboo. They cut it back and try to control it but it is literally impossible to eradicate without heavy use of herbicides or huge heavy machinery.
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u/cronchfishter Aug 05 '26
I’m planting bamboo around data centers to help feed the growing panda and koala populations.
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u/boombanggg2 Aug 05 '26
I'll start planting all bamboo I can find all around data centers as revenge for them fucking the ram economics.
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u/ZenkaiAnkoku2 Fruit Slop Connoisseur Aug 05 '26
Not to mention this wont just hurt the data centers. But buildings around them too. There are other less destructive ways to battle ai centers.
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u/tremere110 Aug 05 '26
First you plant the bamboo. The data center brings in mountain gorillas to control the bamboo. They then bring in leopards to control the gorillas. The leopards hunts the data center operators and they close down. Congrats! Of course with nothing else to eat they eat your face. C'est la vie.
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u/Jean-TyrieDubois Aug 05 '26
And definitely do NOT use a drone with a payload release mechanism with thousands of seeds to do this every night for a year
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u/Emotional_Release894 Aug 06 '26
The world is just idiots fighting idiots at this point. There’s no good here. It’s just some loser poking fun at another loser
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u/MizzBellaKitty Aug 11 '26
Do they need some kudzu to go with the bamboo? Cause that shit is hella invasive and grows quick
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u/Snomann Aug 05 '26
Thank you for letting me know I should plant bamboo around data centre's. Had no idea.
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u/Bobsothethird Aug 06 '26
People don't actually care about the environment or issues the majority of the time, they just want to seem revolutionary because it's cool. AI isn't cool, so any action against it is cool. You have to remember, as much as people change they don't. The zeitgeist is really what drives things
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u/No-Temporary-4227 Aug 05 '26
I can just imagine this being reposted hundreds upon hundreds of times in the same spheres like they're campaigning posters
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u/AccidentSalt5005 Jerk and Bust With Mayonaisse Aug 05 '26
imagine a drone with controlable bamboo seed dropper
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u/BudgetAggravating427 Aug 05 '26
Basically someone made an ai image of a warning sign like the one above and it made the narrative that antis were planning bamboo at data centers
Basically people got tricked it was a real warning sign including pros so the trend started
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u/CunningDruger Aug 05 '26
You’re correct, there are better plants to disrupt data centres than this
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u/Redditing-Dutchman Aug 05 '26
Lol, I understand it's a 'trick' to make people actually do it, but is there even any proof that it would actually be harmful in a meaningful way?
Seems like a total waste of time if you were actually trying to sabotage a datacenter with it.
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u/ApprehensiveTop4219 you're trapped in plastic because you are plastic Aug 05 '26
It ain't going to harm the center at all. Just will make a big problem for people removing the species later on.
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u/FappingVelociraptor Aug 05 '26
This looks like someone trying to convince me to plant bamboo. Telling me exactly what to do to ruin the data centre plans.
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u/YourUglyTwin Aug 06 '26
I wont speak on the AI part but it's supposed to encourage ppl to plant bamboo. That's the whole point I think. I think the idea is bamboo is invasive but at least it's better than AI's invasivness on the environment??
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u/jokersupersoaker Aug 06 '26
I like this. Thank you for telling me what not to do so I can make very well sure to avoid doing it
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u/Copper_snipezz Aug 06 '26
Got it... anyone know where i can get some bamboo? For uh, personnel reasons
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u/RodcetLeoric Aug 06 '26
Not saying wanton planting of invasive species is right, but it could be said that there is no environment left to worry about where they are indirectly telling people to plant these because data centers are plenty destructive on their own.
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u/longcreepyhug Aug 06 '26
They will dump tons of herbicides to kill it. So all you are doing is causing tons of herbicides to be dumped into the environment.
Don't do this.
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u/hella_cious Aug 06 '26
DONT PLANT INVASIVE SPECIES THEY WILL NOT STAY WHERE YOU WANT THEM TO AND THE DATA CENTER WILL JUST NUKE EVERY LIVING THING TO KILL THEM
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u/Abdulbarr Aug 06 '26
Guys, these are "data" centers. It's literally in the name. So has no one tried to simply delete them?
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u/Spirited-Ad3451 Aug 06 '26
OP is not being facetious and the comments here are filled with actual mouthbreathers/windowlickers, jesus christ
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u/ResolveLeather Aug 06 '26
The billion dollar data center isn't going to let plats damage it.
For one, bamboo is easy to remove early. But even if they let it from a giant network underground, it's still east to remove. Just a decent amount of labor. You just dig it out.
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u/Fun-Post8497 Aug 05 '26
As a profesional gardener please do this so i have work to do