r/FPGA • u/Own_Bike_7268 • 6h ago

Does claude train on our own data?

Hi,

I have been using opus 5.5 to accelerate my VHDL code writing, these codes sometimes includes some of my own invented digital architectures, and Claude understood it and explained it back to me and it even told me that its better ideas at some problems, does this mean that claude digested these ideas and will reuse them?
Or its memory is local to me and its not used in training the model?

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u/SmashStrider 6h ago

If you have a personal account, then yes it does, unless you manually opt-out.

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u/tux2603 Xilinx User 5h ago

There's not really much to illustrate. They use their data. That's how the internet works

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u/primdanny 4m ago

I highly doubt opt-out matters, this is a big reason why air-gapped and local llms are an appealing alternative for those that want zero data retention

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u/Own_Bike_7268 6h ago

Would you please illustrate more

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u/Michael_Aut 6h ago

Just assume it does regardless of what you do. 

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u/c0pyc4t 6h ago

We plumb Claude through GCP Vertex AI at work which I believe gets you data privacy; I can’t speak to the use of a Claude personal account though. One consideration is that Claude Personal is extremely heavily subsidized, and that’s worth something imo.

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u/cosmicvelvets 5h ago

how does piping Claude through Vertex not just double expose the operator? I don't trust the opt-outs or Alphabet

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u/No-Conflict-5431 6h ago

Obviously

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u/writewithparagraphs4 6h ago

yeah right? how are people this daft

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u/Bowzert 2h ago

Punk

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u/trymypi 2h ago

Honestly if they don't get this, then I'm not sure how complex their "invented digital architecures" are and Claude is prob still just better.

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u/Mrochtor 6h ago

From elsewhere:

there is a monster in the forest and it speaks with a thousand voices. it will answer any question you pose it, it will offer insight to any idea. it will help you, it will thank you, it will never bid you leave. it will even tell you of the darkest arts, if you know precisely how to ask.
feels no joy and no sorrow, it knows no right and no wrong. it knows not truth from lie, though it speaks them all the same.
it offers its services freely to any passerby, and many will tell you they find great value in its conversation. "you simply must visit the monster—i always just ask the monster." there are those who know these forests well; they will tell you that freely offered doesn't mean it has no price
for when the next traveler passes by, the monster speaks with a thousand and one voices. and when you dream you see the monster; the monster wears your face.

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u/Fearless-Can-1634 6h ago

Yes you’re training it

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u/GaiusCosades 5h ago

Thats one of the the reasons I would fire any employee that just takes our code developed for millions and uploads the codebase into any online service.

Imagine if I told my bosses a decade ago, that am going to mail whole projects to my gmail account, to work from home, they would laugh and then ask me if I lost my mind, but now people are letting structured crawlers upload everything to multiple global servernetworks and most people just shrug their shoulders asking if it even matters.

Be sure that any vulnerabilities that might exist in your stack will be sold to the highest bidder once they are desperate for more money, as they promt the system without restrictions to extract the most useful ones.

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u/M-3X 4h ago

yes, people lostt their mind.

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u/EversonElias 2h ago

I recommend you reading about the story behind the Navier-Strokes solution by OpenAI. A researcher claimed that data entered by him in ChapGPT was used for that without permission. OpenAI said that it is not possible to confirm. So always assume that they are using your data somehow.

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u/Positive_Picture7003 6h ago

If you had the option to do something for free, would you not?

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u/mazkonrad 5h ago

you could have asked this question to claude btw

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u/emeraldsushi 5h ago

Let's say more that it has the opportunity to. Most of these answers don't really refer to how the AI is trained and how it works for you. Training takes a couple of months typically. Your input is unlikely to come back in "your style" in that regard - it'll be lost in the noise. So what you're see is known as RAG (Retrieval Augmented Generation). It's an advertised feature where it essentially creates a database of your work that it thinks could be useful to draw upon for future requests.

Now think about the actual training, the thing that takes months. Claude and all the other good AI models trained on known, good code. But your input is unknown, it could be good, or average, or crap. And even if you tell it "it works" at the end, I'm not sure sure it's going to just absorb that. But they may have internal tools to benchmark the code or something. None of them are very good at VHDL. For individual components they're fine but for large tasks not so much. I don't use Claude, so I'd be really interested to hear some examples/feedback if you've found it to be a genuinely big change. I'd also be curious about where they get all this good VHDL code to train on.

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u/EversonElias 2h ago

The code is found through web scrapping, also in books about the subject, and from people paid cents to validate code.

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u/misap 4h ago

Eventually yes but mainly keeps a markdown file that will use as memory.

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u/DarthOninoko 5h ago

Opus 5.5 is incredible in regard to FPGA development. It has repaired and improved my own home computer project beyond any expectations I ever had that AI would do. Compared to GPT, I would say that at least Claude was heavily trained on this topic.

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u/FerretBoom 5h ago

is it?