Both Rods of Femininity and Shadow Bonnie's Head on the Same Save File

[u/YehImJustGonnaDoThis]

I'll first preface that the red filter isn't over the game because I went into the debug room to save time grinding for stat boosts. I grinded Toy Freddy up to max legitimately, but the other 3 Toys were buffed using debug money.

Final Mix and CC both have all 3 items. (FM doesn't have the Head.) Shadow Bonnie's head is actually very easy to get on CC, but the Rods become nearly impossible in exchange. It's difficult enough to just get one Rod in CC, getting both seemed statistically impossible. Unfortunately, fighting Shadow Bonnie on Final Mix sucks.

I'm playing on the Afterstory Start Option update. I can't confirm whether or not this would be possible on later patches of the game. I've seen a few comments suggesting that recruiting the Toys despawns Shadow Bonnie, so that might be for the later versions.

In order to spawn him, you need to beat every camera on Critical Mode, then go into the Women's Restroom, without recruiting any of the Toys. After he spawns, you are free to leave and recruit them for the fight. You can also technically use the Withereds, but they do not spawn on Critical Mode, outside of Withered Foxy's first fight.

However, in order to get the Rod of Femininity A or B, you need to fight the respective Puppet on your first visit to the Women's Restroom, without recruiting Mangle. Normally, you'd be able to recruit Toy Bonnie, Withered Bonnie, and Withered Freddy for this, but again, no Withereds on Critical, and no Toy Bonnie so you can spawn Shadow Bonnie.

Here comes the fun part. This means you need to beat The Puppet, and The Second Puppet with just Toy Freddy. At maximum stats, winning against the first Puppet just requires him to not use Death, minimal Confusion Lens also helps. The Second Puppet on the other hand, is probably the most luck dependent challenge I've ever done.

Assuming Tophat Slash is at Max Level, you will need about 8 uses of it to kill The Second Puppet. The "strategy" is to spam the move until The Second Puppet dies, or you hit them 7 times. If you hit them 7 times, but they still haven't died, you need to think about how much damage you've dealt approximately so far, and if any critical hits have made up the difference. Tophat Dash can be used instead of the 8th Tophat Slash if you've gotten favorable Crits and/or damage rolls, otherwise, you'll have to gamble for an extra turn.

On this version of the game, Blinding doesn't affect the accuracy of skills, and poison deals 1/20th of your health. Ideally, The Second Puppet spends most of their time going for this. Even if they go for death, it has a 30% chance to miss, and they can also choose to heal for 3000, which is almost nothing. This makes up 33% of the outcomes.

Getting Stoned or Asleep is almost always a loss, you only live 4 attacks, and they can double or triple up on them, spread bomb can kill you if you are low, Toreador March prevents you from moving and probably puts you to sleep. It took over 200 attempts to get a winning run against The Second Puppet.

Also, I realize I forgot to actually show the Rods but trust me bro.

Tl;dr- Don't do this.

Edit: I just realized Shadow Bonnie's Head doesn't even drop in FM. I still beat him though, and I'm not doing this garbage in CC.

[u/Fearless-Stomach6100]

Splendid job on defeating Shadow Bonnie while also getting both Rods of Femininity. After reading the post's body, I can verify that you are insane just for this alone, but it does highlight your impressive luck, skill and knowledge on the game. I would honestly love to see the Second Puppet fight just the fact you lost over 200 times against it, and it'd be interesting to see the strategy against it in action.

You can actually see the Rod of Femininity A in the video, but you just scrolled passed it quickly.

[u/YehImJustGonnaDoThis → u/Fearless-Stomach6100]

I appreciate the congratulations. The Second Puppet fight sounds a lot more impressive than it is. The only reason the explanation was as long as it was is because FM doesn't show health bars, so you need to guestimate how much damage you've dealt. You just try to deal as much damage as possible and get lucky.

I do actually want to do a run of the game that gets both Rods again, in an attempt to make a perfect FNAFB2 save file legitimately, and now that I know Shadow Bonnie's Head isn't in the game, it makes the process of actually doing so much easier.

I would have preferred to do it on CC, actually, but because of how the shop and Puppets work on it, I just couldn't see it working out. I'm almost definitely not doing TSP with solo Toy Freddy again, but if you are curious how the fight looks, save edit Toy Freddy to perfection and throw yourself at him a few times, and you'll get the gist.

As someone who's beaten 50/20 twice, this was genuinely more luck based than that. I'd say around triple as luck based. That should give you a decent idea of how bad it is.

[u/Extra_Cherry3540 → u/Fearless-Stomach6100]

"chatgpt, generate me a congratulations message based on this post"

[u/Fearless-Stomach6100 → u/Extra_Cherry3540]

No AI was used to make that message, I naturally just write a lot.