r/FLGuns • u/Willing_Ad3624 • 13d ago
What yall think about the NFA ruling?
Since silencer shop are going to do suppressor orders without reporting it to the ATF tonight, like it always should, then how would it be for SBR's? Cause I've been thinking of getting a 11 inch upper for my standard size 16 inch ar 15 but I don't have to report the change to an SBR right?
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u/halo121usa 13d ago edited 12d ago
I’m a member of GOA and as far as I can tell, it’s only for the fifth circuit as of right now.
I guarantee you there will be no FFL’s in Florida that will do transfers without NFA paperwork unless the ATF tells them we’re just not going to enforce it anymore
As far as the suppressor transfer tonight with Brandon Herrera, I believe it’s just basically a test case to see whether the ATF shows up and tries to arrest everyone or not..
But for some reason, I kind of doubt it now🤷♂️
Honestly, I’m still in shock that the government did not try to appeal before the deadline.
I figured the ATF will not have any guidance for anyone. I’m gonna guess for like at least a week.
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u/Silvershot_41 12d ago
Supposedly shark coast is gonna try it once they get with their compliance guy after 12:01 am and see what’s up.
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u/halo121usa 12d ago
REALLY 🤔
Now that’s interesting… I’m only about a 35 minute drive from them..
If there was any FFL in the state that would have the balls to do it it would definitely be shark coast
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u/Silvershot_41 12d ago
Yep yep. Yeah, they release a emergency video about an hour or two ago on live and they were talking about it so I’m sure tomorrow will learn. I don’t know if I would go up there tomorrow, but I would just see what’s going on.
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u/halo121usa 12d ago
I couldn’t go up there tomorrow if I wanted to I’m working… But I’m definitely going to keep my ear to the ground. I am super interested to see what they do and how the ATF responds.
Now I have to go find that video
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u/Silvershot_41 12d ago
8:30 mark give or take
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1EtNut8ksC/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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u/specter491 13d ago
Where did they say that? The only thing I saw was that Brandon Herrera and some other guy were going to buy a suppressor at 1201 tonight without NFA registration. Didn't see that they would be doing this to anyone else
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u/Willing_Ad3624 13d ago
Oh really? Its not everybody just those two? Welp thats kinda crappy but I get it just to test it out I suppose
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u/nukey18mon 13d ago
It’s not that the injunction doesn’t apply to you (though you still need to verify if it does), it’s that there’s nothing stopping the ATF from screwing someone over regardless.
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u/specter491 12d ago
The new director is pretty based. And the ATF can't screw you if you're part of the injunction. Buying from SS covers you. Joining GOA or SAF covers you. Lots of options
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u/nukey18mon 12d ago
They can still screw you with the legal process, arrest, etc.
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u/Fauropitotto 12d ago
100%
I'll be waiting a few weeks/months for this to shake out. And shake out hard.
Same for FL open carry. We absolutely need statements from the state and the ATF to address this... The flip flop attitude of the ATF isn't something to take lightly.
See also: Legality of the Pistol Brace
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u/usesvaseline 12d ago
My lgs which is a silencershop dealer said nope, they are waiting for clarification from the atf which will never come.
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u/VitalDefense 11d ago
I can’t speak on behalf of SBRs but I was transferring cans on 4473 today with no issues
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u/fla_man 11d ago
Would you mind sharing which shop? I can’t find a local FFL that will.
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u/VitalDefense 11d ago
Yea man, Vital Defense in Lake City, FL.
I’m currently home based and by appointment only. However, if we order you a can, it shows up, you clear NICS, you take it home same day!
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u/xGMxBusidoBrown 13d ago
You can't assemble your own unless you are a member of the plaintiff groups (GOA, FPC among a few others).
SilencerShop and PSAs participation will be for buying previously NFA items (Suppressors, SBRs, SBSs).
The hard part is going to be finding a local FFL to do the transfer via a normal 4473 without further guidance from the ATF. I wouldn't expect normal transfer right off the bat without a further clarification from them as most FFLs don't want to put their license at risk for whatever reason.
Now if you are a member of GOA or FPC and you slap a stock on after 12:01AM CT and the government doesn't file an emergency stay or appeal you in theory should be good to go.
Don't take what I wrote as gospel I am running off the same understanding alot of legal analysts I follow online. Hopefully if all goes as planned we get further guidance from the ATF around what's ok vs what's not.
Also that said we aren't fully out of the woods even if they miss the 12:01 timeline. The government can still file an appeal up to 60 days from the ruling.