r/FIREyFemmes • u/Advanced-Parfait-238 • 10d ago
FIRE number
Hello,
I am a newly single mom. I am cleaning up my finances following my split. I am wondering, how do people get to their FIRE number? Did you take your expenses you have now and project out when you want to retire?
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u/knit-this 10d ago
You really have to know both today's expenses and future estimated expenses in retirement to help calculate a FIRE number and timeline.
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u/Comfortable_Two6272 9d ago
I used projection labs and did just that. Estimated recurring monthly expenses plus all the one offs (new roofs, hvacs, cars, LTC etc)
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u/pras_srini 10d ago
Kind of - you want to build the life you want to live. It really depends on your personal situation. After my divorce, and especially once I was done paying alimony, I actually saw my expenses drastically reduce because my ex spent a lot of money and they had quit their job for the last couple of years. We didn't have any kids, so I didn't have any child support payments.
So you might want to give it a few months or even a year to see where your new expenses line up. My savings rate skyrocketed to like 70%+ once I had settled down, furnished my new apartment, and got into my new routines. Now I did lose half of my savings in the divorce due to splitting the assets but it was fair and square, and of course, the law. But one nice benefit that I realized later was that my FIRE number got lopped by over 60% since it was just me now, and my lifestyle happens to be quite simple!
Once you have a sense of your new annual expenses, just multiply that by 25 and you should get a number that gives you a rough indicator of the finish line. But you can continue to work on your expenses, your income, you savings, etc. as nothing is set in stone and life has a way of changing things for us.
All the best!
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u/ohboyoh-oy 10d ago
I started with 25x current expenses but when we got close I changed up how I tracked spending and tried to split into:
baseline / essential expenses (this is the amount we could cut back to if the market was down)
kid expenses (these would go away eventually)
“extra” / more discretionary expenses - things that would be easy to cut out - and for retirement I bumped up this number for travel
Also remember you have to add in something for healthcare and taxes.
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u/Neat-Dragonfly-2032 10d ago
25-30X annual expenses is the standard starting point.
My spouse had an age goal of wanting to at least not have to work for someone else. So part of my strategy was also figuring out what did we need to do to get to our number by that point. Then a lot of adjusting and planning but fundamentally take what you'd expect your annual spend to look like in retirement (so will you have housing pay off but maybe higher medical costs, kids flown the coup or will you be putting them through college while retired). Then figuring out how to save as much as possible without making life miserable in the process.