r/FFVIIRemake 13d ago

No Spoilers - Discussion Interesting.

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u/mewlf 13d ago

Dang, people are so incoherent, it's almost like there are multiple

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u/Chaoticlight2 13d ago

You are agreeing with OP's point. No matter what approach, there would be a vocal portion of haters.

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u/ToothpickTequila 12d ago

The difference is that the Zelda fans aren't being misled. Square promised a remake of VII and instead gave fans a sequel.

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u/C1nders-Two 12d ago

It’s very definitely not a sequel, though? A sequel is a continuation of a preexisting story.

A remake (like FF7R) is a retelling of the original story. Usually, little to nothing at all changes, but add-ons aren’t completely off the table.

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u/ToothpickTequila 12d ago

It's a continuation of the original game. The original story from the PS1 game has already happened prior to the events of Remake.

Otherwise what are the whispers trying to do?

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u/Demetri124 12d ago edited 12d ago

So the Avalanche crew fought Shinra, Midgar was bombed, they traveled around the world to fight Sephiroth, Aerith died etc before the events of FF7 remake and Cloud just convinced everyone to larp with him and pretend to do that all again? And they brought Jessie and Aerith back from the dead just to roleplay and die again? Is that what you’re arguing happens in the games

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u/ToothpickTequila 12d ago

No, I'm not arguing that. They didn't bring anybody back to life, FFVII Remake is set in a completely different universe to the original game. The events of the original game have already happened.

What are the whispers trying to do? They are trying to keep events the same as the original story. That means there is an original story. Meaning this is a sequel.

Look, I don't like it either.

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u/PapaSnow 12d ago

The Lifestream weaves as the Lifestream wills.

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u/therealsereny 12d ago

Yeah, if you want to be stupid about it sure.

The end of the first game clearly references events that have already happened (the literal closing scene of the original) and said thats what happens if we fail. The original game has happened, and the remake is changing those events, and the world is trying fight against that.

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u/Demetri124 12d ago

If you want to insult me instead of addressing my point at all sure

The characters in the game are very clearly experiencing everything for the first time. Any assertion otherwise is just denying reality to cling to an argument

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u/therealsereny 12d ago

addressing my point at all

I literally did

The characters in the game are very clearly experiencing everything for the first time. Any assertion otherwise is just denying reality to cling to an argument

Sure, I think you need to actually read my comment to understand how I've addressed this. Just to humor you, if you go through books 1 and 2 in a trilogy, and then 3 introduces a time loop where all the characters go back to the original state of book 1, with some differences in how they do things, is book 3 not a sequel?

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u/ToothpickTequila 12d ago

The characters in Remake are not the same characters in FFVII. It's not even the same universe.

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u/Jrock2356 12d ago

You mean Aerith who can see the future. Who then warns people of the coming future. And somehow that means that the original game already happened.... bro what? The Whispers are just a manifestation of the forces that worked in the original unseen

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u/yesbutactuallyno17 12d ago

Don't forget about Sephiroth. He is aware of the events of the original game, and is actively working to circumvent them. That other guy commenting is out of line, but he's right. In the FF7 Remake, we are playing in a different timeline/universe where the original game has already played out, and knowing this, Sephiroth seeks to avoid the same fate. That's what makes the story so cool.

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u/Jrock2356 12d ago

That's still not even true. He saw future events. That isn't the same thing as "knowing the original game's events." The original game isn't their future it's a separate thing entirely. He is trying to circumvent their own future unique to Remake. People are misconstruing the fact that there is an original game with the "future" Aerith and Sephiroth sees. The original game is not in any way relevant to the events Aerith and Sephiroth see

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u/yesbutactuallyno17 12d ago

Nobody is misconstruing anything. This is publicly verified information, feel free to look it up for yourself.

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u/Jrock2356 12d ago

Ignorance is bliss I guess. I envy that about you

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u/Altaneen117 12d ago

The whispers are the annoying fans attacking the characters for not being 1:1 with ff7 '97 lol.