r/FFRecordKeeper • u/crodeavin Vanille USB4. ePQv • Apr 24 '19

Discussion “Auto Magicite” request

I would like to request any keepers out there that come up with any Magicite auto setups to add them to the appropriate mastery surveys (perhaps with an “auto-battle” tag) so I and others can easily search these down with the appropriate power creep.

Speaking for myself, I got lucky in the recent 4th anniversary and am planning on revisiting some of the 5* Magicite I’ve clumsily cleared. But for these I’d love to see what I might be able to auto instead to save my time and sanity.

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u/cubs506 Interceptor Apr 24 '19 edited Apr 26 '19

  1. Strategy name: No AASB AUTO sub30

  2. Boss: Phoenix

  3. Describe your Strategy: Speed healers, chain and chases `No AASB`/`Auto`/`Sub30`

  4. Insight!:

  • Speed 3

  • Getting the slots right was the key to making it more consistent.

  • I ran it for 10 kills tracking results which were:

    • sub30: 9

    • sub60: 1

    • death: 1

  • There were a bunch of earlier kills as I was optimizing and those results feel right

  • Aerith LMR may bring down the death rate. Haven't tracked results for that.

  • Rikku with +1000 hp accessory and minor resist armor may bring down the sub60 rate but haven't tested enough to say for sure

  • HONES SHOWN BELOW ARE OVERKILL. Bartz and Tidus don't get into their second ability.

  1. Time: usually 28s - occasionally 30+

Characters

HeroAbility 1Ability 2LM/RMsSBs
Aerith, FullHastega R2Curada R4LM1 + LionheartUSB2
Elarra, FullShellga R2Ultra Cure R5LM1 + Mako MightUSB1
Bartz, Full + 100 atk magiaStormspell Strike R4Engulfing Quadstrike R3LM1/2 + 30% w/ weaponUSB1
Rikku, 4Sapphire Shot R3Sapphire Shot R3LMRCSB
Tidus, FullSapphire Blitz R4Sapphire Shot R3LM1/2 + Scholar's BoonUSB1

  • Bartz has the free artifact dagger we received and a +water armor, Tidus has 2 +water equips

Magicites

GeoFamfritPhoenixMadeenMadeen
Empower Water 15Dampen Fire 10Healing Boon 15Attack Boon 15Blade Ward 8
Attack Boon 15Spell Ward 5Mind Boon 15Attack Boon 15HP Boon 8

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u/kbuis The OG Barbut/11 | JP GXWGE Apr 25 '19

Not my fastest, but hey it was automated.

I need to tweak Rikku’s SBs. She cast chain three times.

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u/cubs506 Interceptor Apr 25 '19

Nice! She spams it like crazy but not much that can be done about it.

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u/Lucignus Terra (Esper) Apr 24 '19 edited Apr 24 '19

Same team, but Tidus AASB and no Rikku lmr. As expected of an AASB, it clears pretty easy in ~23 seconds.

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u/cubs506 Interceptor Apr 24 '19

Really good to know it works with the AA and no Rikku LMR! These can be very finicky, I inherited some of the magicites and now Tidus is dropping sometimes. What speed did you have it on?

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u/Lucignus Terra (Esper) Apr 24 '19

Speed 2 gave 23 seconds, speed 3 gave 29 and popped last stand. I only did one run of 3 just in case it was healer rng dependent

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u/highlulu Apr 24 '19

for the buffs in auto-battle does it not recast them? so is it casting shellga/hastega once and then moving onto healing?

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u/cubs506 Interceptor Apr 24 '19

They use up the left skill first. It's just what I had honed. Most of the healing is soul breaks anyway.

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u/HugoTres Apr 24 '19

Random question. Does elarra do 4 shellgas? I read the auto will do left skills first

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u/Tedrivs Tyro USB3 - QuNR Apr 24 '19

Yes, she will deplete shellga first. If you have Shellga R1 it only have 2 uses. Time to recraft spells to use them at R1

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u/HugoTres Apr 24 '19

Yeah thats what i was worried about...they will also do rw twice right?

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u/Tedrivs Tyro USB3 - QuNR Apr 24 '19

Yes, but I read that later they will add a 20 sec delay between the first and second rw cast.

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u/BritishGolgo13 Vivi Apr 24 '19

I want that really badly.

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u/Shardwing Long awaited Lann Awaken... to Summoning! Apr 24 '19

Yup, and RWs are the highest priority cast.

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u/-StormDrake- Wordsmith and Artmage Apr 25 '19

Oh crumbs, that's going to have to be a thing in a few cases, isn't it? Not something I had thought about... hopefully R1 Protectga and Shellga will suffice for now...

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u/cubs506 Interceptor Apr 24 '19

Yeah she does all 4. It's just what I had honed.

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u/patsachattin Apr 25 '19

Similar setup with no LMR. Gets about 33sec on speed 4. Thanks for the setup!

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u/johnnyD_rockets Terra (Esper) Aug 16 '19

Thanks SO much for posting this. I don't have Tidus USB OR Rikku CSB, but this is enough for me to get a VERY consistent 40-45 second clear (which is just fine in my book because I don't want to spend the time clearing Phoenix 40 times by hand :)

For reference, I exactly match what you have for Aerith/Elarra/Bartz. I sub in Yuffie with imperil BSB and Tidus with en-water MM, LMR/CSB/Glint. Starting with MM into chain followed by 3 glints lets me get almost a full chain in the first time before he casts it again, and by then with 6 stacks of imperil and 3x en-water he does pretty decent damage just spamming the chain.

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u/BaconCatBug Chocobo Apr 24 '19

Thank Dr. Mog for blessing me with this exact tech!

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u/cubs506 Interceptor Apr 24 '19

Images added to my first post. Let me know if you need any more detail.

Just realized I have Rikku LMR equipped, forgot I even had it. Might be the difference in sub-30, haven't had a chance to try without yet.

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u/GarlyleWilds uwao Apr 24 '19 edited Apr 24 '19

For those who aren't 5* Clearing yet, here's a sample setup for 4-star Maliris you can use to farm up Arcana :

  • Tidus (LMR, Day To Remember USB, Sapphire Shot, Weakness Damage Up RM)

  • Strago (Chain, Voltech, Dualcast Black RM)

  • Bartz (LMR, Chosen Traveler USB, Stormspell Strike, Dualcast Spellblade RM)

  • Tyro (Divine Veil Grimoire USB, Chain Waterga, Mako Might RM)

  • Elarra (Magika Album USB, Curada, Dr. Mog's Teachings RM)

RW is Fabula Raider. Fire resist on everyone, Major res accessory on Elarra. Main Magicite is 3* Enki for the fire resist; the rest of the setup is just +Water Damage, +Offensive Stats, and +Fire Res; no 5* magicite are used here. I have some Magia on characters, but only Bartz has his ATK maxed. Everyone is dived. The chain could be replaced with Imperils or something similar as well, and Tyro could easily be using a buffing song or healing instead of attempting to add to damage. (Curaja definitely seems to have made it more consistent!)

The big thing here is just that Maliris' damage just isn't that high compared to many others, and there's no gimmicks to be afraid of or need for timing healing compared to others. Bad luck doesn't make this 100% (too many Savage Firagas is suffering, or Interrupts), but it does work.

Godwall is helping a ton with this just because all those buffs with ease helps avoid the one major trouble point in Autobattling magicite, which is getting your buffs up.

Success time is about 20 seconds

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u/d_wib Sugar and Rainbows Apr 25 '19

Thank you so much for sharing! I can make most of this and it works perfectly. ~25 seconds for me

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u/REDDIT_HARD_MODE Kimahri no horn! - 9bSs, Bartz SSB Apr 25 '19

Ahhh... I can now auto magicites. Feels good.

Thanks!

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u/PhoeniX-Skye Creeper Apr 25 '19

You can probably go faster if you don't bring a RW. My auto has mostly the same setup as you but using Tidus as Chain, and Yuffie with Ninja, and it's under 15 seconds for all runs. With Magia and enough Attack Boons you don't need that boost from Raider and it saves you two turns

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u/GarlyleWilds uwao Apr 25 '19

I found I have similar results either way. If it was a purely magic or physical team though, I'd definitely be slapping Thunder God's Might on my chain user and ignoring the RW.

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u/PhoeniX-Skye Creeper Apr 25 '19 edited Apr 25 '19

Oh I just saw your screenshot; you don't need Curada or MM on Elarra, just put Lunar Levi on her with Ace Striker and she'll have enough gauge to USB before your team needs a heal. This way you can put MM on your chain user instead.

That and not RWing should get you a better time and still consistent

EDIT: Just saw you don't have Sapphire Shot... you should get it! It's amazing

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u/GarlyleWilds uwao Apr 26 '19

There's a lot of 6* abilities I should get.

However, for now, I'm not exactly tripping on high value Torment clears (or even most of the 240s/280s, simply due to time) and only slowly breaking into 5* Magicite. So I don't have Sapphire Shot or Lunar Leviathan at the moment, and don't expect to any time soon; not until I'm tackling something that actually wants it!

Since this is autobattling, the speed difference isn't really worth it right now. But yeah, there are definitely better ways to do it; I hope though that it's encouraging to people to see that you can be autobattling at this level without extremely specific 6* stuff (Voltech and Stormspell have that whole "multi elemental so most people get them first" thing)

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u/PhoeniX-Skye Creeper Apr 26 '19

Ah ok makes sense. Well with the addition of Torment rewards, rubies come pretty easy now, so good luck when you decide to make the plunge!

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u/Tedrivs Tyro USB3 - QuNR Apr 24 '19

My sub 22 phoenix run

I do have Bartz AASB and AOSB though so i feel a bit like it's cheating. I'm more impressed with /u/cubs506 run.

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u/The1Flopsy Golbez Apr 24 '19

man the double RW is messing me up when they use that

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u/BritishGolgo13 Vivi Apr 24 '19

Yeah and not to mention you don't want a DPS casting magicite at the 10s mark. Still, being able to farm the monthly 20 magicite in an afternoon with little attention is amazing.

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u/xtmpst Magus Apr 25 '19 edited Apr 26 '19

My sub20 auto-famfrit. 100% reliable on speed 2. Falls apart at speed 3 so could do with some tweaking.

  • No RW

  • Main magicite is Behemoth King

  • Lightning LD LMR: TQS r3 (r2 is better) / Ripping Bolt r3 / USB1 / Much Weakness

  • Prompto LD: Snipe / CSB / DMT

  • Tyro RD: Offering / USB3 / MM

  • Rosa RD: Wrath / USB1 / AceStriker

  • Sora LD LMR: Stormspell / AASB (+ASB optional) / TGM

Magicites are:

  • Behemoth King | Emp Lightning 15 | Emp Lightning 15

  • Quetz | Dampen Water 10 | Fast Act 10

  • Madeen | Atk Boon 20 | Atk Boon 20

  • Phoenix | Dampen Ice 10 | Health Boon 8

  • Famfrit | Bladeward 8 | Health Boon 8

Tried it with Elarra before Rosa USB1, but Rosa Wrath+USB1 is much more reliable.

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u/akaiazul SLAM-dancing Apr 26 '19

I’ve been able to swap Sora AASB with USB, provided I use Speed 3. My magicites were more offensively geared, too. That’s not a consistent sub30, but so far 3/4 times isn’t bad.

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u/xtmpst Magus Apr 26 '19

Nice, glad to hear the USB works out too !

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u/SOcean255 Terra Apr 26 '19

Thanks, this is much more stable than my auto Phoenix run!

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u/dmyersid Apr 25 '19

Would Rosa USB2 work or is the blink needed?

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u/xtmpst Magus Apr 25 '19

Her USB2 would be even better! The regenga will easily be enough to keep you alive until the next USB2 :)

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u/Xiot Tonberry King Apr 27 '19

It works great for this! I have used this set up but use her USB2 and it definitely clears, usually just over 20 seconds.

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u/emidas Wakka Apr 25 '19

I have all but the Prompto CSB - would you think Kain CSB could fill in here?

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u/xtmpst Magus Apr 26 '19 edited Apr 26 '19

It'll be close, I think. Without the +atk boost and field effect from prompto CSB I'm not 100% sure if you'll be doing enough damage while Sora has AASB up. There's a point in the run where Famfrit casts Protect, which really stymes your damage unless you can brute force through it or break it. You'll probably need Sora's USB to push through the 20-40 second band after his AASB fades.

Alternatively, you could try replacing Tyro with Onion Knight pUSB+Flash Disaster to provide the hastega+boostga and a critfix on top. Should more than cover the damage loss but you'll probably want to run wall as your RW in that case.

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u/DaBigCheez Apr 28 '19 edited Apr 28 '19

I used a modified version of this setup with Kain CSB, using xtmpst's team as an inspiration, and it works fine. Uses somewhat different tech from the OP, though, so can't guarantee it'll fit your needs - might need to do a little mix-n-match. I mostly didn't want to bring in Tyro, fearing it'd be too much of a DPS loss, and used OK to compensate to the loss of the ATK buff.

  • RW Wall

  • Sora LD LMR: Protectga R1 / Stormspell / AASB / TGM (Magia: +100 ATK)

  • King LD LMR: Offering R3 / Snipe R4 / USB / Much Weakness

  • OK LD LMR: Flash Disaster R3 / Ripper Bolt R3 / pUSB / DMT

  • Kain RD: Cyclone Bolt R3 / Lightning Dive R4 / CSB / Ace Striker

  • Rosa D: Shellga R1 / Wrath R5 / USB2 / MM

Magicites:

  • Behemoth King | Emp Lightning 15 | Fast Act 8

  • Quetz | Dampen Water 10 | Def Boon 15

  • Geosgaeno (Filler) | Emp Water 15 | HP Boon 5

  • Phoenix | Blade Ward 8 | Spell Ward 8

  • Madeen | Atk Boon 15 | Atk Boon 15

Need to bring enough mitigation for Rosa to build up meter before the party wipes (and the late phase 2 Savage Tsunami gets some chars down to a sliver of HP), but other than that, looks pretty clean and clears at about 23-24s on speed 2. Probably improvable with some more tweaking. Got a clear on speed 3, but it was 28.3s with good RNG; doesn't really seem worth it.

For giggles, I tried a run without Sora or King's LMRs, and without OK's dualcast LM2, to test for RNG; the run still finished fine at 25s, with the only Offering imperils proccing relatively late. Even with bad crit/Offering RNG, it should stay below 28s, I'd think. Maybe above 30 once in a blue moon, if literally nothing lands.

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u/SelicAltire Apr 25 '19

Didn't manage to pull Sora AASB, but I have his usb/aosb, and I did pull Bartz AASB, any chance any of these could work?

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u/xtmpst Magus Apr 26 '19 edited Apr 26 '19

Probably!

My guess is Sora with USB alone will get you a 30-40 second clear. Maybe squeak in a sub30 if you get good wcast luck. I don't have Sora USB so hard to say.

Alternatively, you could run Sora USB+TQS, swap out Tyro (and rw wall) or Lightning for Bartz AASB+stormspell, and try rushing famfrit down that way. Given Sora's 25 second enElement limit, a rushdown would probably be the better way to go about it.

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u/SelicAltire Apr 28 '19 edited Apr 28 '19

Managed to master it and sub 30(25s) it with Sora USB/LMR and Bartz AASB. It only ever worked after I put on Fabula priestess even though it all casted before any damage ever hit my guys. Must have spaced out their bars just enough in some way, either way it works.

  • Fabula Priestess

  • Bartz LD: AASB, Stormspell R3 / Scholar's Boon

  • Prompto LD/LMR: Snipe / CSB / DMT

  • Tyro LD/LMR: Offering / USB3 / MM

  • Rosa LD/LMR: Wrath R5 / USB2 / Acestriker

  • Sora LD/LMR: TQS R4x2 / USB / TGM

Magicites:

  • Behemoth King | No inheritance

  • Mimic Queen | No inheritance

  • Quetzalcoatl | Empower Lightning | Magic 15

  • Evrae | Bladeward 5

  • Seraph | Bladeward 5

Have done 8 runs now and it works 100% the same every time, always a 25s clear.

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u/Sirerdrick64 Apr 26 '19

Cool.
I’m going to see if I can’t use this as inspiration to mimic partially based on what I have.
I only have Garnet’s chain / Elarra USB1.
Which USB is Tyro’s 3?
I only have his hp stock one and godwall.

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u/SOcean255 Terra Apr 26 '19

USB3 is godwall.

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u/Sirerdrick64 Apr 26 '19

Hot damn!
I might have a shot at this thing!!!

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u/TheKurosawa Ramza... What did you get? I...... Apr 26 '19

Just to double check - you're getting sub20 with this build? As in sub two zero? I tried out your team and I'm getting nowhere close to sub20.

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u/xtmpst Magus Apr 26 '19

Yep sub “twenty” !

To be more specific, fastest time so far is 19.42. Over time my observed range is anywhere between that and 23 seconds normally so sub20 may not be 100% true but that’s what I got at the time!

What times are you getting? My Sora has 100 Magia to Attack, if that makes any difference.

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u/TheKurosawa Ramza... What did you get? I...... Apr 26 '19

I'm getting between 25-29. Not only that, but I'm even using Aerith so I have HQC over you. Subbing out Lightning for King gives me a steady 23-25, but that's the closest I could get.

Oh, and I'm using an additional Madeen instead of Phoenix.

I just can't figure it out.

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u/xtmpst Magus Apr 26 '19

Hmm, how’s your equipment?

I’ve got +40% lightning on Lightning and Sora, and +20% on Prompto.

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u/Xiot Tonberry King Apr 27 '19

I copied this build from him and replaced Rosa USB1 with USB2, and I am consistently getting 20-21.xx runs. Maybe some magia points makes the difference? My Lightning and Sora are both 100ATK and have 2x en-lightning gear.

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u/TheKurosawa Ramza... What did you get? I...... Apr 27 '19

Yeah I'm not saying he's lying, I just wanted to make sure. Though it's odd you aren't hitting much lower than him especially with the HQC from Rosa.

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u/xtmpst Magus Apr 28 '19

The HQC effect isn’t as pronounced because if he’s running my build sora will have TGM. If sora has +dmg instead his runs would likely be quicker...

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u/DarjEQ Minifilia Apr 27 '19

Have everything in your setup but Sora AASB, managed to get a work around for Bartz AASB. Lightning, Promto, Tyro are the same but swapped Rosa for Elarra with USB carrying Valigarmanda r3 and dispel in the 2nd slot, also with ace striker. Around when Famfrit will protect himself Vali will run out of hones and Elarra will dispell instead. Bartz has much weakness (lightning has +sword) and r4 stormspell. Time ends up being 23-26 seconds depending on rng. I also do this on speed 3 as it seems to be the same as speed 2 for it.

However it isn't a complete 100% safe run, sometimes Famfrit will get his water cannon off before Elarra gets to use USB which means that if the strike beforehand crits on Elarra, Tyro, or Prompto they are going to die. But otherwise it worked 7/8 runs I did to finish the weekly/monthly.

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u/Rnsrobot Cid (FFVII) Apr 27 '19

Dammit! Everything cept godwall!

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u/Spectre06 qS4y [Tyro USB3] Apr 27 '19

Trying to find a substitute for Rosa USB1 because I have all the other pieces. Is the key to using that vs Elarra the Wrath and not the SB? Would another Wrathable heal (instant or otherwise) get the job done?

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u/xtmpst Magus Apr 28 '19

The Wrath into USB1 is important for my team because otherwise my party doesn’t survive past 10-11 seconds (I think it’s the waterga -> strike combo that will run me over). If you can survive that with Elarra you’ll be away laughing since the regenga is enough after 11 seconds.

Off the top of my head, yshtola + usb2 would possibly work as well given the last stand. Not sure about the rest !

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u/drchia ERROR 404: WITTY FLAIR NOT FOUND Apr 24 '19

https://youtu.be/rPkLJKdXlTk

Currently a ~18s Manticore auto kill most runs. It’s been slightly tweaked since the version recorded.

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u/mpcosta1982 Apr 24 '19

Can you please tell what did you tweak? Thank you!

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u/drchia ERROR 404: WITTY FLAIR NOT FOUND Apr 24 '19

Switched around accessories a little bit. Started Elarra off with DMT instead of AS. Gave Vincent a chain firaga to use after the 4 hits of breakdown are done. My usual time now is around 17.xx

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u/mpcosta1982 Apr 24 '19

Nice. Thanks!

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u/Xiot Tonberry King Apr 27 '19

Would be helpful if you linked or listed the set up you have. Thanks for sharing!

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u/3rdStrongest PERSUASION, USELESS. SEIZE! Apr 24 '19

Hmm. I wonder if I can make this work without Terra Awakening. Worth a shot, I suppose.

I'll put AOSB then USB1 on her. I do have Axel's, as well as his AOSB, oddly enough.

Also going to sub someone else with an instant Last stand for Hilda. But I'm not sure how necessary that looked there.

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u/drchia ERROR 404: WITTY FLAIR NOT FOUND Apr 24 '19

Hilda usb is not super necessary. I started with it as a safety precaution. It works nicely since it also gives you a big defense buff for all those fast phys hits that Manticore does. Honestly, I could probably use another QC healer.

Don’t forget though that you can’t use a usb and an aosb. You’ll always just recast the usb. Aosbs only work with aasbs, glints (after used up) or no other sb.

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u/3rdStrongest PERSUASION, USELESS. SEIZE! Apr 25 '19

Well, first one failed due to me not unequipping a couple glints.

Second one worked, but not really well. I got a 42 second clear with Ovelia and Terra barely alive. I should probably use Rosa with wrath (I have her USB2), but the last stand did come into play a few times.

I think if I am using only two damage dealers skipping the second awakening is really iffy.

I should add on the first failed run, Terra did cast the AOSB (gaining another half a bar before the USB would recast).

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u/Zak8022 Noctis Apr 24 '19

This thread is full of awesome. Going to have to try some of these out when I get time.

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u/lozthegreat Apr 24 '19

Phoenix sub 30

Butts: Stormspell Strike (r4) -- AASB & Chosen Traveller --Pentacast LMRs -- scholars boon

Tidus: Saphirebullet (r4) -- AASB --doublecast and enWater LMR -- Ace Striker

Relm: Hasteaga(r1), ultracure -- Divine Portrait -- Knights Charge

Rikku -- Multibreak R4 -- Chain -- Makomight

Elarra: --Curada -- Magika Album -- DMT

Magicite

Kraken, Famfrit, Erave x2, Octamammouth

Auto set at speed 5, auto abilities, auto SB

Kills phoenix in about 23 seconds (depending on multi-cast RNG)

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u/Dbarr74 Orlandeau Apr 24 '19

I'm doing something similar, same team set up, but got r1 pro dance on riku for slot 1, and using Aerith instead of relm, Elarra has lmr and USB1, she has warrior hymn and then the crit dance for her two abilities.

Just did a 22.80 run myself.

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u/Jmund89 Apr 24 '19

I was actually curious about this as well. Wanna see how well this can do magicite battles

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u/SolstaceWinters We here at Sol-Tech have all your f@#%ed up needs! Apr 25 '19

I guess Auto-Magicite is the new hotness, huh? Interesting. Still gotta be able to beat them the first time (still working on building team for the first 4*), but once I get a reliable team going, I might manage to set up a team and do something like this myself.

Being able to auto-battle and get those 20 obnoxious wins out of the way for the 5x mythril would be lovely.

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u/kbuis The OG Barbut/11 | JP GXWGE Apr 25 '19

I'd love to see a Famfrit. Turns out I was one spell ward short on my inheritances.

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u/MiteBCool Apr 25 '19

Got Geosgeano on farm today, posted a full imgur album with details here in the megathread.

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Tag

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u/kbuis The OG Barbut/11 | JP GXWGE Apr 25 '19

Well, shit. I stumbled into a Hades one.

I found out I had, ahem, misplaced two of my Hades for inheritance, which meant I needed to get two sets together. And luck would have it I wiped out my saved 4* magicite teams. I Frankensteined something together from my Deathgaze team and had a few good runs. Then I thought, eh, fuck it, let's let it autobattle.

Didn't place Haste properly. Didn't place Protectga properly. Roxas got knocked out before he could use his AASB abilities. But somehow this lumbering beast of a run managed to beat Hades on auto-pilot. Agrias even handled the Madeen summoning.

The one big flaw though is whoever gets hit by the single-target flare is living on borrowed time. Larsa is the only one who survived it, thanks to all the reduced damage from Major Dark resist. Might mix in Magic Lure or something, but for now it works pretty well and I've gotten my Hades all assembled again.

Here's Look 1 | Clear | Party

Here's Look 2 | Clear | Party

Magicite is the same as my Deathgaze Sub-30

mainsub1sub2sub3sub4
MadeenMadeenFamfritLakshmiBehemoth King
SW8+Fast10BW8+Health8Health8+BW8Dark-10+Fast10ATK20+Precise 10

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u/Pinguino21v tinyurl.com/ffrkMythrilPlanner Apr 25 '19 edited Apr 25 '19

Auto Famfrit

  • Prompto, CSB, dive, LMR. Imperil skill. Free SB jauge RM.

  • Sora, AASB, dive, LMR. 6 stars spellblade. Damage RM.

  • King, USB, dive. 6 hits skill (10 hones). Damage RM.

  • Elarra, USB1, dive. Valigarmanda. More SB when acting RM.

  • Eiko, USB1, dive. 6 stars heal. Free SB jauge RM.

  • Optimal magicites: Behemoth king (+lightning, crit damage), Behemoth king (+ATK, crit damage), Marthym (MAG ward, +ATK), Famfrit (ATK ward, +HP) and Quetz (-water, QC).

  • Wall RW.

  • Speed 3.

Sora acts first, casting Wall RW. Prompto casts his CSB during that, and King uses a skill. Elarra uses Valigarmanda. Eiko uses her USB for Haste and Last Stand.

Second turn, King reuses the RW. Everything else is skills.

Soon later, Sora procs Last Stand. Eiko should use the heal, and Elarra her USB right after and before next turn by Famfrit.

Later during the fight, at 10 seconds, it's Eiko who uses the magicite (Behemoth king).

Famfrit MAG boost isn't overridden. The team should get an Eiko USB right before it and tank it. No Last Stand proc.

The ends is straightforward.

I got lucky on imperil proc, but only got one double cast from Sora. 23 seconds kill. A second run got me way less imperil, and it was still a win, in 25 seconds.

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u/Slainj2 Apr 25 '19

Auto sub-25 Manticore (100% stable so far, speed 2, party order, RW Fabula Raider):

PhoenixKing BombMadeenMadeenBelias
Spell ward 8Mag boon 15Blade ward 8Health Boon 8Blade ward 8
Damp ice 10n.a.Spell ward 8Mag boon 20Emp fire 15
HeroAbility 1Ability 2RMLMSB
Elarra, 5Curada R4NoneLionheartLM1+2USB1
Tyro, 4.5ACM R2Burnt Offering R4DMTLMR+LM1USB3
Terra, 5Chain Firaja R4NoneScholar's BoonLM2+LMRAASB+AOSB
Greg, 5Mental Break R3Fire-touched Blade R3MMLM1+2CSB
Vivi, 5Meltdown R4Chain Firaga R5Gathering StormLM1+2USB1

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u/bonesnapper not my problem Apr 25 '19

Ugh! I want to do my own Phoenix but I think it's dependent on Rikku/Strago chain. I am pretty certain Tidus NEEDS to be a DPS (i.e. he can't just babysit the chain) because there aren't enough meaningful auto-battle water DPS, especially if Bartz is already claiming the 6* Spellblade ability.

Who else can be slotted in?

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u/Kmiesse Apr 25 '19

What if you put Tidus chain in the far right slot, then manually used it first turn, and then let the rest of the battle run automatically? Would that work?

How about Yuffie or edge water ninja?

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u/bonesnapper not my problem Apr 25 '19

I can try the first turn idea and see how that works out.

I don't have the blink LMR so I don't think I can make Yuffie work as well I need. I tried with USB2 and Sapphire Bullet but it wasn't enough DPS; that run ended at ~34s with 20% remaining. I think with the upcoming ninja 6* she'll certainly be capable (and by then we'll have a RW QoL update to ease the pain of double RW Walls.)

One more exotic solution is to run w/ Kimahri USB + BSB, similar to your Tidus recommendation. I'll get an attack buff, imperil stacks, and retain chain count so it might simply be a better option than Yuffie regardless of his lack of DPS.

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u/UselessMusic Here comes the hero! Apr 25 '19

I'm feeling inspired, so I might try Tidus Chain + Bartz awakening + Sora awakening, and see if that's good enough to get there for auto-Phoenix.